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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What the hell are you talking about?
    Presidential Masturbation.
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    I personally think there are two reports. One for the public eyes which is all "Hopey" and "Changey," while the other confronts reality.

    No evidence, of course, but just my hope.
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    John Lehman, a member of the 9/11 commission and Navy Secretary during the Reagan Administration, says a reluctance to cause offense by citing Hasan's view of his Muslim faith and the U.S. military's activities in Muslim countries as a possible trigger for his alleged rampage reflects a problem that has gotten worse in the 40 years that Lehman has spent in and around the U.S. military.
    If a person from the 9/11 commission forged it then I do not trust it. Maybe 1 guy didn't take out 13? Maybe the these things actually weren't in the report because they are not part of the truth.
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Actually a good and valid point. But that was not Mr Vicchio's claim. He clearly stated that you lost in Vietnam because you were 'too nice'. I was merely trying to ascertain the nature of this 'niceness'. I doubt he was using the word in the 19th century sense - to indicate delicacy, so I assume he was implying that the US prosecution of the war in Vietnam was too gentle and pleasant. The savagery of Calley and his like, and the death toll of circa 4 million, would not appear to support claims of gentleness or pleasantry. So I am left rather wondering what he meant.
    You fight wars to win. We did not politically fight that war to win. We didn't hit infrastructure that we should have. We didn't bomb their capital back into the stone age.
    Jack Estes served in Vietnam during the height of the war (68-69). It is his opinion that "the United States won the war militarily. We never lost a major battle and that is a verified and documented fact. We never had the advantage and could have won the war in 90 days," says Estes. "We had the sophisticated equipment and the highest trained men,the only problem was that the United States government would not let us use these resources." This is what caused the percieved loss of the Vietnam war, Congress. If the government would have quit trying to figure out a way around the war it would have been over in no time, but since they were trying to find an approach that pleased everyone they made the situation worse by dragging it out. The press was also way out of line. The media does not belong in the war. Because of the twisted media coverage the war was portrayed much differently than it really was and the American people were basically lied to. These lies enraged the American people and caused discontent in the American's opinion about Vietnam and the young men who were sent there to fight. Estes also does not understand "how America lost the war if the South was taken over by the North after all but a handful of American troops had been withdrawn from Vietnam two years before." He compared it to blaming the US if Kuwait was taken over by Iraq today even though US troops were withdrawn some time ago. It seems that most veterans feel that if the blame is to be placed on anyone, it needs to be placed on the bureaucrats who were in washington at the time not the troops who were sent over to fight.
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You fight wars to win. We did not politically fight that war to win. We didn't hit infrastructure that we should have. We didn't bomb their capital back into the stone age.
    Ummm ... but you lost the fight to one of the smallest, poorest countries in the world.

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    No mention of Hasan and Muslims?
    But those right winger extremists in trucks with gun racks Napolitano spoke about could be mentioned with the ease of farting after eating a bathtub full of beans.

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    wow, yeah, thats a good policy, look how well that worked in vietnam, you ****ed up the entire country for generations and still lost.
    The Commies did a nice clean up job on those who did not obey, just as they had The Soviet Bloc.

    The Vietnamese generals also say there was no way the US should have lost, but because the press propagandized against their own country... they had levearge, exploited it to the point the US abandoned the country.

    We won the Tet Offensive... but the press reported it as a defeat. How ill.

    The press and misinformed peacenik Leftists ****ed up the country for generations, and millions died because of their lunacy. Had we eliminated the Red Menace, we would have assisted with their recovery... as we always do. Instead they had the generous, tolerant and human rights minded Commi nations to "help".

    America's left has a lot of blood on their hands. In fact they're bathed in blood. Worse... they have no interest in learning from history; just think... we have a fool in the White House that thinks the world will change because he and his goody, goody intentions.

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    I truly believe that the day I’m inaugurated, that not only does the country look at itself differently, but the world looks at America differently...

    The world will have confidence that I am listening to them, and that our future and our security is tied up with our ability to work with other countries in the world. That will ultimately make us safer. And that’s something that this administration has failed to understand.”
    And people voted for this dangerous clap trap.

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Hood massacre report gutless and shameful - NY Post

    There are two basic problems with the grotesque non-report on the Islamist- terror massacre at Fort Hood (released by the Defense Department yesterday):

    * It's not about what happened at Fort Hood.

    * It avoids entirely the issue of why it happened.

    Read more: Hood massacre report gutless and shameful - NYPOST.com

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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Ummm ... but you lost the fight to one of the smallest, poorest countries in the world.
    Well, we didn't, but if we did -- how does that contradict what he said?
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Perhaps it occurred to somebody that public government discussion of the events of that day might be seen to be jeopardising his right to a fair trial, leading to his aquittal?
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    Re: Fort Hood Report: No Mention of Islam, Hasan Not Named

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Ummm ... but you lost the fight to one of the smallest, poorest countries in the world.
    ......armed by one of the most populous one (china) and one of the most advanced one (soviet union) and popularly supported by the majority of the population of western europe.
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