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    Barney frank: ‘god didn’t create the filibuster’

    Breitbart.tv Barney Frank: ‘God Didn’t Create the Filibuster’

    He wants to change the rules so that the GOP cannot filibuster the Healthcare Bill.
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    Re: Barney frank: ‘god didn’t create the filibuster’

    the part in charge always threatens to get rid of the filibuster, this is nothing new.

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    Re: Barney frank: ‘god didn’t create the filibuster’

    I whole-heartedly support at least limiting the filibuster, no matter which party is in charge.
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    Re: Barney frank: ‘god didn’t create the filibuster’

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    the part in charge always threatens to get rid of the filibuster, this is nothing new.
    frank's(house member where a simply majority rules) motives are so the democrats can pass every spending bill and law to suit themselves.

    senate republicans wanted a change in the rule specifically because the democrats wouldn't allow an up or down vote for judicial nominees.

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    Re: Barney frank: ‘god didn’t create the filibuster’

    I think the filibuster is too important to ALL minorities, as that was what it was created for in the first place, and should be left just the way it is. It's a safe guard against the negative affects of "majority rule." Sure congressmen have used the filibuster to extend slavery and other bad legislation before but I think that's a small price to pay to ensure that the minority at least gets a voice.
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    Re: Barney frank: ‘god didn’t create the filibuster’

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    frank's(house member where a simply majority rules) motives are so the democrats can pass every spending bill and law to suit themselves.

    senate republicans wanted a change in the rule specifically because the democrats wouldn't allow an up or down vote for judicial nominees.

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    I see it as the same thing. Whoever is in charge doesn't like the minority meddling with what they want to do.

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    Re: Barney frank: ‘god didn’t create the filibuster’

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    He wants to change the rules so that the GOP cannot filibuster the Healthcare Bill.
    That's called the "Nuclear Option".

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option]Nuclear option - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    In reality, the filibuster is just an illusion, since at any time a simple majority can vote to overturn it. However, if the Democrats did that in this situation, it would be political suicide, so it's not likely to happen.

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    Re: Barney frank: ‘god didn’t create the filibuster’

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    I think the filibuster is too important to ALL minorities, as that was what it was created for in the first place, and should be left just the way it is. It's a safe guard against the negative affects of "majority rule." Sure congressmen have used the filibuster to extend slavery and other bad legislation before but I think that's a small price to pay to ensure that the minority at least gets a voice.
    No, the filibuster was created because there was a loophole in the rules. Someone changed to rule to remove speaking limits, and then someone took advantage of that much later. The founding fathers didn't intent a 60% threshold for legislation. I wouldn't mind it being like in the olden days where you had to get up and read the phone book for hours to keep it going, but the modern day version where anyone can just decide to not let things go to vote without any actual actions on their part... not good.
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    Re: Barney frank: ‘god didn’t create the filibuster’

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    No, the filibuster was created because there was a loophole in the rules. Someone changed to rule to remove speaking limits, and then someone took advantage of that much later. The founding fathers didn't intent a 60% threshold for legislation.
    True, but i think the 2/3 threshold is still a good idea nonetheless. It still acts as a safeguard.

    I wouldn't mind it being like in the olden days where you had to get up and read the phone book for hours to keep it going, but the modern day version where anyone can just decide to not let things go to vote without any actual actions on their part... not good.
    Truthfully, I don't see any difference whether they're reading from the dictionary or not saying anything at all. They're still accomplishing the same thing, which is wasting time. However, I think it saves everyone much more time if they didn't read from the dictionary, which is a little more efficient that way I suppose.
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    Re: Barney frank: ‘god didn’t create the filibuster’

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    True, but i think the 2/3 threshold is still a good idea nonetheless. It still acts as a safeguard.
    It's 3/5 not 2/3, by the way, but I don't think we need it in most cases. It's contrary to the concept of a representative republic.


    Truthfully, I don't see any difference whether they're reading from the dictionary or not saying anything at all. They're still accomplishing the same thing, which is wasting time. However, I think it saves everyone much more time if they didn't read from the dictionary, which is a little more efficient that way I suppose.
    Because filibusters back then weren't indefinite. Eventually you had to stop talking, one way or another.
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