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    Re: Businessman sues BA 'for treating men like perverts'

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Depends upon the laws extant. There is a case to be made that the little girl was inappropriately sexualised by being dressed in a bikini (totally unnecessary for a prepubescent child) and posed as she was on the bonnet of a car. You or I would not view a small child in a sexual sense, but a paedophile may find that photo appealing. It is simply not appropriate.
    It does depend upon the letter of the law, but I think in a general sense I would argue that his intent was not to sexualize the girl. If the law makes it a crime to produce a photo that a pedophile would find appealing, that is an awful law in my opinion, as tastes vary, like they do with legitimate pornography, or anything else.

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    Re: Businessman sues BA 'for treating men like perverts'

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    It does depend upon the letter of the law, but I think in a general sense I would argue that his intent was not to sexualize the girl. If the law makes it a crime to produce a photo that a pedophile would find appealing, that is an awful law in my opinion, as tastes vary, like they do with legitimate pornography, or anything else.
    I understand the point you are making, and I do not for a moment think the family members were trying to sexualise their little girl. My point is that they showed poor judgement in portraying her in that inappropriate manner, and I am not surprised that the military authorities questioned that photograph.

    This is actually quite a peculiarly American thing with little girls. As evinced by the junior beauty queen contests which also unnecessarily sexualise little children. Again that may not be the intention, but that is the effect, and the results are quite ridiculous. These are small children, for God's sake!

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    Re: Businessman sues BA 'for treating men like perverts'

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Depends upon the laws extant. There is a case to be made that the little girl was inappropriately sexualised by being dressed in a bikini (totally unnecessary for a prepubescent child) and posed as she was on the bonnet of a car. You or I would not view a small child in a sexual sense, but a paedophile may find that photo appealing. It is simply not appropriate.
    LOL She wasn't "sexualized" by being dressed in a two piece. She was swimming, and playing in the water, in the summer. My nieces have been wearing two piece bathing suits since they started having to wear bathing suits at all. Prior to that, they wore nothing at all in the pool or creek.

    A pedophile may view a little girl with pigtails wearing a shorts and a t-shirt in a sexual sense, does that mean that if you have such a picture on your hard drive that you have 'child porn'? No. It's ridiculous. And I see nothing the least bit inappropriate about any of the pics the family sent that soldier.

    People are just taking the child porn **** WAY too far. It's gotten to where parents are afraid taking pictures of their ****ing kids now. It's insane.

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    Re: Businessman sues BA 'for treating men like perverts'

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Maybe I'm just paranoid (which is entirely possible), but I always feel a little bit uncomfortable when I take my young daughter to a playground. I'm just waiting for someone to think I'm some sort of child molester hanging out there waiting to pounce.
    I'm right near a park. I'd say I get a little leery of groups of men hanging out right at the swingset. It's a big park. They should go someplace else. It's just creepy to me, but I wouldn't feel that way towards a father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    I'm right near a park. I'd say I get a little leery of groups of men hanging out right at the swingset. It's a big park. They should go someplace else. It's just creepy to me, but I wouldn't feel that way towards a father.
    The problem is, how do you know who is a father and who isn't? That's what I'm concerned about.

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    Re: Businessman sues BA 'for treating men like perverts'

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post


    That is one of them, and while it may be completely innocent, you can see where suspicions might have been raised. Frankly, posing her like a sexy bikini-clad model, sprawled across a car bonnet(hood) is maybe not the best choice to send in this day and age. What do the unpublished ones look like?
    Is it just me or does that girl look older than 4?
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    Ridiculous, yet typical.

    If it were up to me, I'd be court-martialing the guy who thinks a child in a swimsuit is kiddie porn. That guy is the one who is ****ed up.
    Child modeling websites have set the precedent for this. Producers of kiddie porn found a way around the law, they simply put the girls in panties or bikinis and had them pose. So, the government changed the definition of pornography to cover those websites, and now this guy is getting screwed. I don't know if he found the pictures enticing or not, but some people would. Though to be real, you can find similar pictures in any clothing catalog, especially around halloween. And the real question should be whether this is harmful behavior for the child in question.
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    Re: Businessman sues BA 'for treating men like perverts'

    I wouldn't wanna sit next to the little varmints, anyway. Glad to know that if I ever fly British Airways, that they can't force to sit next some brat that can't sit still, or shut-up.
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    Re: Businessman sues BA 'for treating men like perverts'

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Depends upon the laws extant. There is a case to be made that the little girl was inappropriately sexualised by being dressed in a bikini (totally unnecessary for a prepubescent child) and posed as she was on the bonnet of a car. You or I would not view a small child in a sexual sense, but a paedophile may find that photo appealing. It is simply not appropriate.
    This is America.

    Parents get in trouble when they DON'T treat their children like future porn stars, too.

    The whole of western society has gone overboard on this issue, and it's absurd.

    What are the chances that a pervert is going to molest a strange twelve year old boy on an airplane in his seat?

    Zero.

    Make a rule that strange males can't join their new friend in the airplane's head, (hey, um....where are the kid's parents, anyway?) but sitting in public?

    Why not make the kid move?

    This kid thing? I would agree with prosecuting that for kiddie porn photo...AFTER the nation shuts down it's Baby Beauty Pageant industry. We shouldn't be having a double standard, should we?

    And for the love of Pete, if you have a photo of your week old baby getting her first bath, don't you EVER keep a copy on your computer!
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    Re: Businessman sues BA 'for treating men like perverts'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    This is America.

    Parents get in trouble when they DON'T treat their children like future porn stars, too.

    The whole of western society has gone overboard on this issue, and it's absurd.

    What are the chances that a pervert is going to molest a strange twelve year old boy on an airplane in his seat?

    Zero.

    Make a rule that strange males can't join their new friend in the airplane's head, (hey, um....where are the kid's parents, anyway?) but sitting in public?

    Why not make the kid move?

    This kid thing? I would agree with prosecuting that for kiddie porn photo...AFTER the nation shuts down it's Baby Beauty Pageant industry. We shouldn't be having a double standard, should we?

    And for the love of Pete, if you have a photo of your week old baby getting her first bath, don't you EVER keep a copy on your computer!
    Yeah, the child beauty pageant thing you have going on in the States is really creepy. I don't see how anyone can justify tolerating them, when people are being threatened with prosecution for having pictures of their own children in far more innocent looking situations.
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    Re: Businessman sues BA 'for treating men like perverts'

    Try reading the Brtish tabloids for a week.
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