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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Do you really think that Palin doesn't know who any of the founding fathers are? Or is it more likely that Palin simply got tongue-tied or caught in a moment of paralysis by analysis that is common to all of us?
    If a question like that was able to instill a moment of paralysis by analysis then she has no place near public office. People will be aggressively questioning everything, and if she freezes up over meaningless questions like what papers do you read or who is your favorite founding father, then she'll have no ability to answer even tougher questions. But these sorts of things seem to be very habitual for her. Maybe once I could say she was unprepared or tongue-tied. But if it's consistent behavior, as seems to be the case, then it's a sign of something else. And that something else is related to intelligence and critical thinking.
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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Is that like Obama saying we had 57 or 58 states? Or Biden being so unprepared that he nearly started a panic and a public transit boycott over swine flu? Or Rove misspeaking and saying Iraq when he meant Iran? Or any other number of human things that human beings do? How does being a public figure excuse or diminish our humanity?

    Do you really think that Palin doesn't know who any of the founding fathers are? Or is it more likely that Palin simply got tongue-tied or caught in a moment of paralysis by analysis that is common to all of us?
    Did I say her humanity was diminished?

    No I did not

    Rather that she is definately not qualified for public office higher then that of a School board

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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If a question like that was able to instill a moment of paralysis by analysis then she has no place near public office. People will be aggressively questioning everything, and if she freezes up over meaningless questions like what papers do you read or who is your favorite founding father, then she'll have no ability to answer even tougher questions. But these sorts of things seem to be very habitual for her. Maybe once I could say she was unprepared or tongue-tied. But if it's consistent behavior, as seems to be the case, then it's a sign of something else. And that something else is related to intelligence and critical thinking.
    Whatever...the question 'chocolate or strawberry?' can catch me off guard and having to think about it depending on my mood. And who my favorite founding father is? Well, now that can definitely give me a good reason to stop and think.

    And no, I don't believe this to be a consistent pattern of behavior for her as much as it is a consistent point of obsession for the PDS crowd to cackle over every time the sniff out a new one. She's no more prone to these types of things than any other human being on the planet.

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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No, Palin actually represents the old face of Today's GOP, but it is not where the GOP is headed. I feel pretty comfortable with the GOP now, because they are beginning to return to their roots. Palin, and idiots like her, will be pretty much on the sidelines by 2012. Of course, you can always disagree with me, in which case, I will then have to say that Michael Moore represents the Democratic party. LOL.
    For the sake of the party and the Country in general, I hope that you are correct. I don't have as much faith in the GOP that you do. I've watched them self-destruct over the last 2 decades.
    It will be interesting to watch. Honestly, I don't see who the GOP has on a national level that is going to lead the party. Personally, I would like to see Romney, but beyond that......
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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Whatever...the question 'chocolate or strawberry?' can catch me off guard and having to think about it depending on my mood. And who my favorite founding father is? Well, now that can definitely give me a good reason to stop and think.

    And no, I don't believe this to be a consistent pattern of behavior for her as much as it is a consistent point of obsession for the PDS crowd to cackle over every time the sniff out a new one. She's no more prone to these types of things than any other human being on the planet.
    C'mon Jall....they said the same thing about Dan Quayle and he like Palin....proved them wrong time and time again.
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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    C'mon Jall....they said the same thing about Dan Quayle and he like Palin....proved them wrong time and time again.
    Yeah, kinda funny how the media frenzies like sharks on certain people. Look at Joe Biden...he is known as a gaffe machine and when he says something stupid, the reaction is..."Har har har, Joe said something dumb again. Well that's just Joe, you know" but when Palin takes a moment of thought to answer a question, then it becomes "ZOMGWTF, she's a dumb bitch, can anyone really be that stupid1111!!!!111!!!

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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If a question like that was able to instill a moment of paralysis by analysis then she has no place near public office. People will be aggressively questioning everything, and if she freezes up over meaningless questions like what papers do you read or who is your favorite founding father, then she'll have no ability to answer even tougher questions. But these sorts of things seem to be very habitual for her. Maybe once I could say she was unprepared or tongue-tied. But if it's consistent behavior, as seems to be the case, then it's a sign of something else. And that something else is related to intelligence and critical thinking.
    I would want to agree with you except, she should have known the basic idea of what they would ask. She portrays herself as Loving the Constitution, our Forefathers, America and such. Surely she should have seen such a question coming. Had they asked her a subject from left field such as the effects of miro-organisims of the Columbian cattle and the effect it has on the people there ready to revolt then sure, cut her some slack. But ForeFathers?????

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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Yeah, kinda funny how the media frenzies like sharks on certain people. Look at Joe Biden...he is known as a gaffe machine and when he says something stupid, the reaction is..."Har har har, Joe said something dumb again. Well that's just Joe, you know" but when Palin takes a moment of thought to answer a question, then it becomes "ZOMGWTF, she's a dumb bitch, can anyone really be that stupid1111!!!!111!!!
    Yeah....Biden is definitely prone to gaffes the same as Palin and Quayle. That is true.
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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Whatever...the question 'chocolate or strawberry?' can catch me off guard and having to think about it depending on my mood. And who my favorite founding father is? Well, now that can definitely give me a good reason to stop and think.
    The only reason to stop and think about it is to determine if you like Adams or Jefferson more.

    Public servant, public speaker, they should have the skills for this sort of thing because they are going to get harder, tougher questions and if they freeze up every time you ask them a question, it's god damned pointless to have them there in the first place. To control, we must know. We have to get answers. You can't answer what news papers you read, who your favorite founders are, etc. you're not going to be able to answer the hard stuff. Sorry, but it's part of the job and you'd best be able to do it if you want the job. No sympathy, no slacking, no excuses. Answer the questions or GTFO.

    Besides, many of us who are asked questions on which we have knowledge but maybe need to think about it can at least engage in a conversation weighing the options. She had nothing, a blank. It indicates what's in her head.
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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well, okay. It was just confusing how you suddenly interjected the irrelevant factor into the thread. It sounded less like you were introducing a new point and more like you were responding to someone specifically within the thread.

    But anyway, to build on that, ignoring her would do no good because whatever other weaknesses she has, she is bar none one of the best self-promoters I have ever seen. She's built her fame on the shoulders of being...well, famous. There was a woman who built her fame along similar lines in Los Angeles in the eighties or nineties...Angelyn, I believe...and she achieved fame by putting herself on billboards everywhere. No reason, no context, just her face and name. Eventually enough people got to believe that for whatever reason, she was a famous person.
    Interesting that you'd say that.

    I remember when Obama was out on the campaign trail Reps, Conservs were talking about his "rock star/celebraty" image. It's funny how you don't hear them say this same thing about Sarah Palin now since she went on her book tour and her "celebraty status" has increased. And understand she no longer has any real political ties to either party since she's no longer the governor of Alaska and she's not holding any political office. Yet, Reps/Conservs are quite okay with letting her be out there front and center. On the one hand they lift her up whenever they can, but on the other hand they're quick to say "she's a maverick and really doesn't speak for the Republican/Conservative party but we like what she has to say".



    As to the issue of Palin's relevence, I think it depends on where her party sees as her role in future politics.

    If they view her as another spokes person, then she may be in trouble. IMO, she tends to speak before she speaks and that bods as well as Barney Frank going on one of his rants. But, where Palin helps her party best is drumming home that good ole boy, back woods, wholesome feeling of being a "true American" that resinates quite well within with Republican party. For some reason, Republicans truly believe themselves as being more "American" than any liberal on the planet. So, to that Palin could be a good uniting entity for Republican that may be a problem for Democrats. And let's be honest; before she came onto the scene Republicans were looking for their young, charismatic politician with sex appeal to counter Obama, and they found such a person in Sarah Palin. Let's face it, Bobby Jendell (R-LA) just wasn't cutting it - good American name with an Islamic face...worse than having the middle name of "Hussein", but born and raised in America by Americans (white Americans at that). And now, we have the handsome, sexy Scott Brown on the scene fresh out of political high school as it were. You can't tell me that the Republican party won't be trying to pump up the volume on charisma with this two around (RE: Brown/Palin).

    So, no. Sarah Palin is not irrelevant. If anything, she's like an Independent who's merely there to distract and pull attention (and votes) away from either party that is made to look less relevent than the other. If the Democrats don't look out, these two will certainly do it with nothing more than their good looks...much as has been claimed (or substantiated depending on what literature you read concerning Obama's rise to power) Pres. Obama did while out on the campaing trail.
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