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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    If some liberals think that Palin is so irrelevant, wouldn't it make sense for those liberals to stop paying attention to her and discussing her? Just wondering about that.
    12 thanks for a lame statement like that and whats funny we constantly get 12 conservatives trying to defend her

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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Recorded speeches and questioning is a measurement. So yes, yes I have.
    Recorded speech and questioning, sure. Ok, so how much? How many questions? Over what length of time?

    That's not a measure. It was a feeble attempt at portraying yourself as having one. But in the end, it fails.


    I think you just can't get over the fact that she hasn't presented herself in any coherent manner or demonstrated the ability to respond to simple questions. Sorry, but as I said you can rally against reality as much as you want but it doesn't change the situation.
    I think you can't get over the fact that you have painted yourself into a corner and are about to get beat down with your own words. What's the measure, Ikari. Can you quantify it in any tangible way at all?


    Well more rational than what you've thus far done.
    "Nuh-uh...I know you are but what am I? Huh?"

    Just showing that your glass house isn't out of the danger zone.
    Or a total lack of creativity and ability to respond without resorting to childish mocking. What are you gonna do next? Start playing the "I'm not touching you" game?

    I've made plenty of them, in this thread in fact. If you can't answer simple questions, then how do you answer complex ones? If you can't answer what the vice-President's job is, what newspapers you read, who your favorite founder is...what's left? If you continually whiff at the softball there's no way to hit a major league pitch. She has yet to demonstrate any amount of coherence or ability and I won't consider her a valid candidate until she does.
    No, what you've done is said that her gaffe is reflective of her all the time. You looked at her momentary paralysis on a simple question and used that to say she can't answer complex ones all the while ignoring the complex answers to many policy issues she has given.

    It isn't a realistic analysis. In fact, it's exactly as I said before: lazy and shallow.


    When you can present a coherent message of hers which she can intelligently defend against questioning, let me know. Till then we have a failed governorship, a failed bid on a Presidential ticket, and a well documented inability to answer simple questions.
    So then, no definable measurement of how we arrive at these conclusions. Just mindless regurgitation of "I like...totally dislike Palin and you totally should too, duh!"

    But until then, you are pretty much relegated to the PDS crowd along with Truth Detector and other assorted basketcases.
    I am far from insulted by you being mindless enough to make the same statements I made back at me. If you are supposed to be one of the examples of libertarian thinkers, no wonder they can't ever win an election.

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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Recorded speech and questioning, sure. Ok, so how much? How many questions? Over what length of time?

    That's not a measure. It was a feeble attempt at portraying yourself as having one. But in the end, it fails.
    No. All it comes down to is that you're desperately trying to dismiss a claim with no argument of your own. She did run for vice-president, and not only could she not say what the VP did, but during the course of the campaign and debates she never came out with anything substantial. There's no evidence that she had a coherent platform or could defend it against aggressive questioning. Do you have proof of the contrary? I mean, you keep implying that there is this wealth of information and if only I'd research I'd find it. But yet, there is no argument you've thus far constructed which has contained any of it.

    If this were picking up on one gaffe and running with it, it would be one thing. But there's a long list of them, compared to what? What do you have demonstrating competence, solid platform, and the ability to coherently defend it?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think you can't get over the fact that you have painted yourself into a corner and are about to get beat down with your own words. What's the measure, Ikari. Can you quantify it in any tangible way at all?
    All ready have, several times. The fact that you don't want to address it and sidetrack along preconceived notions to fit your personal bias has stated much as to your own ability to defend against the allegations.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    "Nuh-uh...I know you are but what am I? Huh?"
    It's measured, in this thread in fact. I'm sorry that you don't want to accept it. But that's your inability to properly resolve issues between your personal bias and reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Or a total lack of creativity and ability to respond without resorting to childish mocking. What are you gonna do next? Start playing the "I'm not touching you" game?
    Resorting to childish mocking...you mean like calling me a basketcase? If you're going to contradict yourself, try waiting more than 1 post to do so. You may be able to get away with it if you allow enough time in between contradictions.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, what you've done is said that her gaffe is reflective of her all the time. You looked at her momentary paralysis on a simple question and used that to say she can't answer complex ones all the while ignoring the complex answers to many policy issues she has given.
    No, not in the least. Again, your bias here. I've said that she has consistently demonstrated an ability to not be able to answer questions, simple questions, in such a way as it makes me question her overall ability to do any of it. You're trying to make it sound like I took one gaffe and said "Oh...look at how stupid she is". There isn't one, it's a string of consistent behavior.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It isn't a realistic analysis. In fact, it's exactly as I said before: lazy and shallow.
    No need to be so harsh on yourself. I'm sure that if you could make it past your personal bias on the issue and take in all the information you can beat your lazy and shallow arguments.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    So then, no definable measurement of how we arrive at these conclusions. Just mindless regurgitation of "I like...totally dislike Palin and you totally should too, duh!"
    Already given to you. Just because you don't want to accept it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I am far from insulted by you being mindless enough to make the same statements I made back at me. If you are supposed to be one of the examples of libertarian thinkers, no wonder they can't ever win an election.
    Childish retorts eh? I thought you were bitching about those earlier. Oh well.

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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    12 thanks for a lame statement like that and whats funny we constantly get 12 conservatives trying to defend her

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    I'm not exactly sure I'm a conservative and I hardly ever defend Palin but the Captain does have a point. It's one thing to laugh at the village idiot when she screws up. It is another to follow the village idiot around just waiting for her to screw up.
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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No. All it comes down to is that you're desperately trying to dismiss a claim with no argument of your own. She did run for vice-president, and not only could she not say what the VP did, but during the course of the campaign and debates she never came out with anything substantial. There's no evidence that she had a coherent platform or could defend it against aggressive questioning. Do you have proof of the contrary? I mean, you keep implying that there is this wealth of information and if only I'd research I'd find it. But yet, there is no argument you've thus far constructed which has contained any of it.

    If this were picking up on one gaffe and running with it, it would be one thing. But there's a long list of them, compared to what? What do you have demonstrating competence, solid platform, and the ability to coherently defend it?



    All ready have, several times. The fact that you don't want to address it and sidetrack along preconceived notions to fit your personal bias has stated much as to your own ability to defend against the allegations.



    It's measured, in this thread in fact. I'm sorry that you don't want to accept it. But that's your inability to properly resolve issues between your personal bias and reality.



    Resorting to childish mocking...you mean like calling me a basketcase? If you're going to contradict yourself, try waiting more than 1 post to do so. You may be able to get away with it if you allow enough time in between contradictions.



    No, not in the least. Again, your bias here. I've said that she has consistently demonstrated an ability to not be able to answer questions, simple questions, in such a way as it makes me question her overall ability to do any of it. You're trying to make it sound like I took one gaffe and said "Oh...look at how stupid she is". There isn't one, it's a string of consistent behavior.



    No need to be so harsh on yourself. I'm sure that if you could make it past your personal bias on the issue and take in all the information you can beat your lazy and shallow arguments.



    Already given to you. Just because you don't want to accept it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.



    Childish retorts eh? I thought you were bitching about those earlier. Oh well.

    The libertarian party has many reason why they can't get recognized on a national scale, but that's neither here nor there.
    More of the same mindless drivel. I think at this point you are crossing over into trolling and nothing more.

    I've given you every opportunity to present a reasonable argument and you've failed to even try.

    There's nothing more here for me than frustration at how someone as smart as you can devolve to acting so stupid.

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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    I like how you just whip out the insults but have never shown any proof to back your own claims. You keep asking me, I've given them. But anything pointed towards you is met with deflection and retreat. Que sera sera. If that's the extent of your "defense", I guess that's that.
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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I like how you just whip out the insults but have never shown any proof to back your own claims. You keep asking me, I've given them. But anything pointed towards you is met with deflection and retreat. Que sera sera. If that's the extent of your "defense", I guess that's that.
    That's a blatant lie. I've given defense on numerous occasion in threads you took part in. You've even given nods of assent to those arguments.

    You have no integrity at this point and have convinced me that your sole purpose in this thread is to troll like an angry brat without direction or meaning to your tantrum.

    It's kind of fun to watch though in the same way that PogueMoran is amusing.

    But it's also kind of sad to see someone I think of as intelligent behave in such an irrational and undignified way.

    "Que sera sera."

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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's a blatant lie. I've given defense on numerous occasion in threads you took part in. You've even given nods of assent to those arguments.
    I've said I can understand your logic on why you like her. I still have a fundamental disagreement because I haven't seen anything that would suggest to me that she would be a great leader. Until I see that, I'm not going to consider her valid. And in fact, I think the GOP can do world's better.
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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I've said I can understand your logic on why you like her. I still have a fundamental disagreement because I haven't seen anything that would suggest to me that she would be a great leader. Until I see that, I'm not going to consider her valid. And in fact, I think the GOP can do world's better.
    Meh. I think you are entitled to that opinion. I'd just like to see you use something close to reason and a rational mind to arrive at it though.

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    Re: Sarah Palin Can't Name A Founding Father

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And this is relevant how? I swear I heard her talk about George Washington, so I don't get the thread title?
    The lefties think in the world of the internet they can pull blarney like this.
    It's called the Dan Rather School of Ethics; aka Dumb and Dumber School.

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