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Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

The facts that concerned at the time were the interest rates I was paying for my home, the cost of living, the threat that Russia and Iran posed to our security, and rising unemployment that threatened our very economic security.

I am 63 years old, which I believe is older than 56. I lived the period of time, I don't need to read a book telling me what I experienced. My facts consisted of my bank balance and my financial portfolio along with the threat Carter's economic policy had on my family. I wasn't smoking anything nor did I buy the arguments against Reagan then just like I don't buy them now.

Nothing is ever going to satisfy some people including you but the attitude in this country changed, the pride that people had, the sense of personal financial gain never was higher than it was during that time and rightly so. People could take care of themselves again, personal income skyrocketed, interest rates dropped,and dependence on the govt. was lessened.

There was a reason for the outpouring of love and respect for Reagan during his funeral. It looks to me like it was you smoking something instead of taking advantage of the opportunities presented. The majority in this country got it, some never will.

The president does not set interest rates. I guess if you thought he did, I really can't debate you.
I know alot of Reagan lovers like you that are in total denial of history. I guess some people need heros and will forgive flaws in order to have them. The problem is I accept history the way it is. You don't.

Almost every politician gets outpouring of love and respect when they die. Reagan was no different. Hell, they even cried at Teddy's funeral and we all know what dooshbag he was.

I did take advantage of the Reagan years and made a ton of money. That does not mean I think he was a great president.
 
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Great Decade? Hardly.
'80 to '84 sucked and '88 to '92 sucked. Reagan had a good four years and that is all. When he left office the country fell into recession

Not my fault you were living in your mother's basement during the 80s. Some of us had families to care for, and Reagan made everyone proud to be Americans again.

Bush had to deal with Clinton's recession after he was elected. I guess that means you think Clinton's last four years "sucked?"
 
The president does not set interest rates. I guess if you thought he did, I really can't debate you.
I know alot of Reagan lovers like you that are in total denial of history. I guess some people need heros and will forgive flaws in order to have them. The problem is I accept history the way it is. You don't.

Almost every politician gets outpouring of love and respect when they die. Reagan was no different. Hell, they even cried at Teddy's funeral and we all know what dooshbag he was.

I did take advantage of the Reagan years and made a ton of money. That does not mean I think he was a great president.

No one said that the President sets interest rates but economic policy dictates how the Fed sets interest rates. You can deny that Reagan economic policy but to do so is totally ignores personal income, unemployment, home ownership, and strong economic growth thus job creation.

Not sure what Reagan did to hurt you or your family but seems to me you are good at placing blame but poor at taking personal responsibility. People like you seem to need countries where there is a King to do everything for you. Reagan got the govt. out of the way and I did the rest.
 
Not my fault you were living in your mother's basement during the 80s. Some of us had families to care for, and Reagan made everyone proud to be Americans again.

Bush had to deal with Clinton's recession after he was elected. I guess that means you think Clinton's last four years "sucked?"

I had bought a home in the 80s and paid it off in 10 years. Nice try at a personal attack.
Were you proud to be an American when he made deals with terrorists? Or when dozens of his boys were indicted? I wasn't.

I never said Reagans last four years sucked. If you read my posts I said they were great, but they were temporary just like Clintons.
 
Yes, I've read an entire political history of Russia and any political historian will tell you that the fall of the USSR was by and large internal and independent of your ronald reagan's efforts internationally(which were atrocious)

Your unsupported opinion is worth exactly 0.
 
JFK's the man! :2razz:

How old were you when JFK was President? I was 17 and liked JFK but he wasn't who you thought he was. He was one of the Presidents that lowered tax rates though and that grew the economy. The other two are Reagan and GW Bush. JFK wouldn't recognize today's Democratic Party.
 
I had bought a home in the 80s and paid it off in 10 years. Nice try at a personal attack.
Were you proud to be an American when he made deals with terrorists? Or when dozens of his boys were indicted? I wasn't.

I never said Reagans last four years sucked. If you read my posts I said they were great, but they were temporary just like Clintons.

Ronald Reagan experienced the same things that GW Bush and Sarah Palin are experiencing today. They all promote free enterprise, capitalism, and personal wealth creation thus have to be destroyed by the left who wants people dependent on their leadership and economic plan. The attacks on Reagan continue today including those by you and the attacks on GW Bush will continue for decades all misguided and totally unfounded.
 
No one said that the President sets interest rates but economic policy dictates how the Fed sets interest rates. You can deny that Reagan economic policy but to do so is totally ignores personal income, unemployment, home ownership, and strong economic growth thus job creation.

Not sure what Reagan did to hurt you or your family but seems to me you are good at placing blame but poor at taking personal responsibility. People like you seem to need countries where there is a King to do everything for you. Reagan got the govt. out of the way and I did the rest.

Still in denial. I guess I am done here.
The fact is Reagans boom to the economy lasted four years and then we went into recession. That is a fact you can not deny. Reagan was not a saviour. Just an average president that some of you guys put on a pedestal.

Funny how you give Reagan all the credit for a good economy yet blame congress for a bad economy.
I find it best to look at things unbiased and nonpartisan. It really is the only way to know the truth. You remind me of the democrats that think Clinton was the greates president ever.
 
I had bought a home in the 80s and paid it off in 10 years. Nice try at a personal attack.
Were you proud to be an American when he made deals with terrorists? Or when dozens of his boys were indicted? I wasn't.

I never said Reagans last four years sucked. If you read my posts I said they were great, but they were temporary just like Clintons.

Excuse me... you said his last two years sucked. Big difference. :roll:
 
Your unsupported opinion is worth exactly 0.

The Soviet Union's collapse into independent nations began early in 1985. After years of Soviet military buildup at the expense of domestic development, economic growth was at a standstill. Failed attempts at reform, a stagnant economy( after Stalin's economics collectivizations, there wasn't really anywhere to go), and war in Afghanistan led to a general feeling of discontent, especially in the Baltic republics(Georgia) and Eastern Europe(slavic regions that weren't necessarily in tune with the Kremlin).

Greater political and social freedoms, instituted by the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, created an atmosphere of open criticism of the Moscow regime. The dramatic drop of the price of oil in 1985 and 1986, and consequent lack of foreign exchange reserves in following years to purchase grain profoundly influenced actions of the Soviet leadership.

Several Soviet Socialist Republics began resisting central control, and increasing democratization led to a weakening of the central government. The USSR's trade gap progressively emptied the coffers of the union, leading to eventual bankruptcy. The Soviet Union finally collapsed in 1991 when Boris Yeltsin seized power in the aftermath of a failed coup that had attempted to topple reform-minded Gorbachev.
 
Yes, I've read an entire political history of Russia and any political historian will tell you that the fall of the USSR was by and large internal and independent of your ronald reagan's efforts internationally(which were atrocious)

Your unsupported opinion is worth exactly 0.
 
Ronald Reagan experienced the same things that GW Bush and Sarah Palin are experiencing today. They all promote free enterprise, capitalism, and personal wealth creation thus have to be destroyed by the left who wants people dependent on their leadership and economic plan. The attacks on Reagan continue today including those by you and the attacks on GW Bush will continue for decades all misguided and totally unfounded.

George Bush is getting attacked because he just about destroyed capitalism and the economy. He did nothing to promote free enterprise. In fact we lost more manufacturing jobs during his watch than any time in history. There was the greatest transfer of wealth during GWBs presidency.
http://www.infowars.com/financial-meltdown-the-greatest-transfer-of-wealth-in-history/

Sarah Palin? I like Sarah Palin.
 
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Your unsupported opinion is worth exactly 0.

hey pal, instead of mindless trolling read my post. there is absolutely nothing you can posit that would have me believe ronald reagan ended the cold war.
 
hey pal, instead of mindless trolling read my post. there is absolutely nothing you can posit that would have me believe ronald reagan ended the cold war.

Come on man. They need a hero to worship and without Reagan they would have to settle for Nixon.
 
hey pal, instead of mindless trolling read my post. there is absolutely nothing you can posit that would have me believe ronald reagan ended the cold war.

It has been argued that Reagan actually extended the cold war.
 
Still in denial. I guess I am done here.
The fact is Reagans boom to the economy lasted four years and then we went into recession. That is a fact you can not deny. Reagan was not a saviour. Just an average president that some of you guys put on a pedestal.

Funny how you give Reagan all the credit for a good economy yet blame congress for a bad economy.
I find it best to look at things unbiased and nonpartisan. It really is the only way to know the truth. You remind me of the democrats that think Clinton was the greates president ever.

I give Reagan the credit because it was Reagan that proposed the tax cuts and then sold a Democrat Congress to pass it. IMO, Reagan was the Greatest President in my lifetime. I have no use whatsoever for Clinton.
 
hey pal, instead of mindless trolling read my post. there is absolutely nothing you can posit that would have me believe ronald reagan ended the cold war.

In case you haven't noticed, the forum has been a bit slow lately..... my post was trying to get through when you posted this bit..... Pal.
 
I give Reagan the credit because it was Reagan that proposed the tax cuts and then sold a Democrat Congress to pass it. IMO, Reagan was the Greatest President in my lifetime. I have no use whatsoever for Clinton.

Well, we had eight good years under Clinton and only four under Reagan so the Clinton lovers have that to gloat about. I agree Clinton was as bad as Reagan in my book.

Reagan could have been the greatest president ever, if not for his deficit spending, his cutting and running in Lebanon, all the criminals under him, the savings and loan collapse, raising tax on SS and his traitorous acts of dealing with terrorists.
 
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I heard Tina Fey is going to be playing the part of Sarah Palin on Fox News.
 
Gorbachev disagrees with you and gives Reagan credit but then what does he know

In ”Reagan and Gorbachev,” Jack F. Matlock Jr. says that Mikhail Gorbachev deserves “at least” double billing for the demise of the Cold War. And he should know since he was a veteran foreign service officer and respected expert on the Soviet Union, he reached the pinnacle of his career under Reagan, serving first as the White House’s senior coordinator of policy toward the Soviet Union, then as ambassador to Moscow.

Reagan himself went even farther. Asked at a press conference in Moscow in 1988, his last year in office, about the role he played in the great drama of the late 20th century, he described himself essentially as a supporting actor. ”Mr. Gorbachev,” he said, ”deserves most of the credit, as the leader of this country.”
 
The Soviet Union's collapse into independent nations began early in 1985. After years of Soviet military buildup at the expense of domestic development, economic growth was at a standstill. Failed attempts at reform, a stagnant economy( after Stalin's economics collectivizations, there wasn't really anywhere to go), and war in Afghanistan led to a general feeling of discontent, especially in the Baltic republics(Georgia) and Eastern Europe(slavic regions that weren't necessarily in tune with the Kremlin).

Greater political and social freedoms, instituted by the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, created an atmosphere of open criticism of the Moscow regime. The dramatic drop of the price of oil in 1985 and 1986, and consequent lack of foreign exchange reserves in following years to purchase grain profoundly influenced actions of the Soviet leadership.

Several Soviet Socialist Republics began resisting central control, and increasing democratization led to a weakening of the central government. The USSR's trade gap progressively emptied the coffers of the union, leading to eventual bankruptcy. The Soviet Union finally collapsed in 1991 when Boris Yeltsin seized power in the aftermath of a failed coup that had attempted to topple reform-minded Gorbachev.

Instead of this mindless trolling, read my post.....#400.... it at least has a link to follow.

East-West tensions increased during the first term of U.S. President Ronald Reagan (1981-1985), reaching levels not seen since the 1962 Cuban missile crisis as Reagan increased US military spending to 7% of the GDP.[citation needed] To match the USA's military buildup, the Soviet Union increased its own military spending to 27% of its GDP and froze production of civilian goods at 1980 levels.[citation needed] Reagan furthermore supplied Afghan warriors with Stinger missiles which cost the US only $1 billion annually, but which cost the Soviet Union as much as $8 billion annually in military losses.[citation needed] Finally, Reagan also actively hindered the Soviet Union's ability to sell natural gas to Europe whilst simultaneously actively working to keep gas prices low which served to keep the price of Soviet oil low and further starved the Soviet Union of foreign capital. This "long-term strategic offensive" which "contrasts with the essentially reactive and defensive strategy of containment" accelerated the fall of the Soviet Union by encouraging it to overextend its economic base.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Soviet_Union_(1985–1991)
 
Well, we had eight good years under Clinton and only four under Reagan so the Clinton lovers have that to gloat about. I agree Clinton was as bad as Reagan in my book.

Reagan could have been the greatest president ever, if not for his deficit spending, his cutting and running in Lebanon, all the criminals under him, the savings and loan collapse, raising tax on SS and his traitorous acts of dealing with terrorists.

Reagan took office with a 900 billion debt and left it at 2.6 trillion. His tax cuts grew govt. revenue that Congress spent. Reagan set a record for vetoes during his Administration but without the line item veto Reagan had to accept Congressional pork to get his legislative agenda passed.

You have a distorted view of the debt, 2.6 trillion is management in a 14 trillion dollar economy, 13 trillion isn't
 
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