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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

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    ill make a ronald reagan thread for ya
    Great, let me know when

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

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    I;m old enough to know that economic success was overshadowed by a monstrosity of foreign affairs blunders.
    "Blunders" like winning the Cold War and the tearing down of the Berlin Wall???

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    I;m old enough to know that economic success was overshadowed by a monstrosity of foreign affairs blunders.
    You mean like Reagan ending the Cold War? Now there is a foreign affairs blunder if I ever saw one.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

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    And yet today he is one of the most admired President and revered by the majority in this country. Someone has a distorted view of what he did, probably you.
    Granted, he had some great PR people behind his image. And, just like the way you guys repeat ad nauseum revisionist history portraying Bush as a national security president over and over and over - people start to believe things they hear repeated so often. You know, like those silly tv ads. So, lies about reagan have been ongoing since he left office. And they continue today... still ignoring all the facts of what really happened.
    Thank You Barack Obama for Restoring Honor To The Presidency.
    President Obama will rank as one of our greatest presidents!

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

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    It will be a while, some on the left have me bogged down on three other threads

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

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    Please start a Reagan thread because I would love to educate you. For someone who claims to be 56 you certainly have a distorted view of what went on during the 80's and for someone who claimes to have voted for Reagan you obviously don't know who you voted for and what he actually accomplished.

    This thread has gone way off on a tangent which of course makes for a great diversion for what is going on today.
    Everything I stated was true. You are in denial.
    Oh I forgot about the Savings and loan crisis under Reagans watch that cost taxpayers billion.

    Fact: Reagan raised taxes several times including raising the cap on SS(I remember it well, my takehome pay dropped significantly)
    Fact: Reagan increased government spending, ballooning the deficit
    Fact: Reagan dealt with terrorists
    Fact: Reagans last term was followed by a recession that lasted 14 months
    Fact: The savings and loan crisis started during Reagans watch
    What part of this do you disagree with? Sorry to burst your bubble but it's all true.

    I agreed that we had a few good years while Reagan was president but it did not last. That is the truth. The only reason Clinton had a few good years was the tech bubble that artificially boosted the economy.

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

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    You mean like Reagan ending the Cold War? Now there is a foreign affairs blunder if I ever saw one.
    He didn't end ****. The USSR failed because of the stagnant and non-doctrinaire leaders who were more interested in their personal gains than any sort of nation improvement. Gorbachev and Breshnev were wildly inefficient leaders and the USSR broke into the commonwealth in 1991, if only because there was no national unity and the communist policies were becoming more and more statist.
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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Granted, he had some great PR people behind his image. And, just like the way you guys repeat ad nauseum revisionist history portraying Bush as a national security president over and over and over - people start to believe things they hear repeated so often. You know, like those silly tv ads. So, lies about reagan have been ongoing since he left office. And they continue today... still ignoring all the facts of what really happened.
    ADK, you don't have a lot of credibility on this issue or any other. For someone who has the tag line that you do and allows the Obama lies to slide and allows this President to abandon transparency ought to take a look in the mirror and see someone without any credibility.

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

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    And yet today he is one of the most admired President and revered by the majority in this country. Someone has a distorted view of what he did, probably you.
    You really admire Reagan and his cronies?
    By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."

    1. Lyn Nofziger--White House Press Secretary - Convicted on charges of illegal lobbying of White House in Wedtech scandal. The lobbying would not have been illegal had he not been White House Press Secretary.

    2. Michael Deaver, Reagan's Chief of Staff, received three years' probation and was fined one hundred thousand dollars after being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury about his lobbying activities after leaving the White House. Same as with Lyn Nofziger.

    3. James Watt, Reagan's Secretary of the Interior was indicted on 41 felony counts for using connections at the Department of Housing and Urban Development to help his private clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he had intervened on their behalf. Watt was eventually sentenced to five years in prison and 500 hours of community service.

    4. John Poindexter, Reagan's national security advisor, guilty of five criminal counts involving conspiracy to mislead Congress, obstructing congressional inquiries, lying to lawmakers, used "high national security" to mask deceit and wrong-doing...

    5. Richard Secord pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to Congress over Iran-Contra. Appointed by William Casey to assist Oliver North.

    6. Elliott Abrams was appointed by President Reagan in 1985 to head the State Department's Latin American Bureau. He was closely linked with ex-White House aide Lt. Col. Oliver North's covert movement to aid the Contras. Working for North, Abrams coordinated inter-agency support for the contras and helped solicit illegal funding from foreign powers as well as domestic contributors. Abrams agreed to cooperate with Iran-Contra investigators and pled guilty to two charges reduced to misdemeanors. He was sentenced in 1991 to two years probation and 100 hours of community service but was pardoned by President George Bush...

    7. Robert C. McFarlane, Reagan's National Security Advisor, pled guilty to four misdemeanors and was sentenced to two years probation and 200 hours of community service. He was also fined $20,000. He received a blanket pardon from President George Bush...

    8. Alan D. Fiers was the Chief of the Central Intelligence Agency's Central American Task Force. Fiers pled guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding information from congress about Oliver North's activities and the diversion of Iran arms sale money to aid the Contras. He was sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service. Alan Fiers received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President Bush...


    9. Thomas G. Clines: convicted of four counts of tax-related offenses for failing to report income from the operations;


    10. Carl R. Channel - Office of Public Diplomacy , partner in International Business- first person convicted in the Iran/Contra scandal, pleaded guilty of one count of defrauding the United States


    11.Richard R. Miller - Partner with Oliver North in IBC, a Office of Public Diplomacy front group, convicted of conspiracy to defraud the United States.


    12.Frank Gomez


    13.. Donald Fortier


    14.Clair George was Chief of the CIA's Division of Covert Operations under President Reagan. George was convicted of lying to two congressional committees in 1986. George faced a maximum five year federal prison sentence and a $20,000 fine for each of the two convictions. Jurors cleared George of five other charges including two counts of lying to a federal grand jury. Clair George received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President George Bush...


    15.Rita Lavelle was indicted, tried and convicted of lying to Congress and served three months of a six-month prison sentence.


    16.Philip Winn - Assistant HUD Secretary. Pleaded guilty to one count of scheming to give illegal gratuities.


    17.Thomas Demery - Assistand HUD Secretary - pleaded guilty to steering HUD subsidies to politically connected donors.


    18.Deborah Gore Dean - executive assistant to Samuel Pierce - indicted on thirteen counts, three counts of conspiracy, one count of accepting an illegal gratuity, four counts of perjury, and five counts of concealing articles. She was convicted on twelve accounts. She appealed and prevailed on several accounts but the convictions for conspiracy remained.


    19.Catalina Villaponda - Former US Treasurer


    20.Joseph A. Strauss - Accepting kickbacks from developers


    21.Oliver North - He was indicted on sixteen felony counts and on May 4, 1989, he was convicted of three: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and destruction of documents (by his secretary, Fawn Hall, on his instructions). He was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard A. Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation,


    You must have been in a coma during the Reagan administration.

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