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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    Colbert's writers are going to have so much fun its not even funny.

    I'll never forget his one clip.

    "Nation, many people think that Sarah Palin will run for 2012 on the GOP ticket. And a recent pole demonstrated her favorability"

    *pans to a pie chart*

    26% Sure
    74% WHAT!!!?!?!?
    a treasure trove.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Yes, I am 56.
    The first four years of Reagan were about as bad as Carter's. I worked for a wholesale finance company at the time and spent most my time repossesing and watching small businesses go belly up. Reagans second term was phenomenal. During that time I worked in the housing industry and the first housing boom led to a great economy. After Reagan left office, the economy tanked and in the first time in my life I was laid off, along with millions of other Americans. You see Reagan's boom was over and Bush Sr paid the price. We went into recession and unemployement exploded.
    The economy was so bad that an idiot like Clinton beat Bush Sr. even after Bush's wonderful job with Desert Storm. That's the way it was. There was a recession under GHWB term.
    That's because the House was controlled by the Democrats while Reagan was in office - not until Reagan took his argument to the people time and time again was he able to get things moving in the right direction - Reagan's having to take it to the people is common knowledge.

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

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    Huge surplus? Why doesn't the U.S. Treasury Website show that huge surplus? Then how would you have paid for 9/11? Economics doesn't seem to be a strong suit for you.
    Do you seriously think that Bush used a "surplus" to pay for his Wars of Choice? I'm still waiting to see your strong suit, aside from attacking people who don't agree with you.
    Thank You Barack Obama for Restoring Honor To The Presidency.
    President Obama will rank as one of our greatest presidents!

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Jones View Post
    That's because the House was controlled by the Democrats while Reagan was in office - not until Reagan took his argument to the people time and time again was he able to get things moving in the right direction - Reagan's having to take it to the people is common knowledge.
    Reagan cut taxes?
    The only problem with this analysis is that it is historically inaccurate. Reagan may have resisted calls for tax increases, but he ultimately supported them. In 1982 alone, he signed into law not one but two major tax increases. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act (TEFRA) raised taxes by $37.5 billion per year and the Highway Revenue Act raised the gasoline tax by another $3.3 billion.

    According to a recent Treasury Department study, TEFRA alone raised taxes by almost 1 percent of the gross domestic product, making it the largest peacetime tax increase in American history. An increase of similar magnitude today would raise more than $100 billion per year.

    In 1983, Reagan signed legislation raising the Social Security tax rate. This is a tax increase that lives with us still, since it initiated automatic increases in the taxable wage base. As a consequence, those with moderately high earnings see their payroll taxes rise every single year.

    In 1984, Reagan signed another big tax increase in the Deficit Reduction Act. This raised taxes by $18 billion per year or 0.4 percent of GDP. A similar-sized tax increase today would be about $44 billion.

    The Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 raised taxes yet again. Even the Tax Reform Act of 1986, which was designed to be revenue-neutral, contained a net tax increase in its first 2 years. And the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987 raised taxes still more.

    The year 1988 appears to be the only year of the Reagan presidency, other than the first, in which taxes were not raised legislatively. Of course, previous tax increases remained in effect. According to a table in the 1990 budget, the net effect of all these tax increases was to raise taxes by $164 billion in 1992, or 2.6 percent of GDP. This is equivalent to almost $300 billion in today's economy.


    The truth is Reagan raised taxes.
    His "getting America moving in the right direction" was extremely short lived and Bush Sr paid for reagans policies.
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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

    Dirty Harry;1058487925]Actually Reagan raised taxes on SS and raised other taxes too. He increased government spending which also bolstered the economy. I admit that Reagans second term was great but it did not last. Bush Sr paid the price of Reagans spending spree.
    Yes, Reagan raised FICA taxes and I know you realize where those taxes go, the SS fund which comes back to the tax payers. Where do income tax increases go?

    Bush Sr. raised taxes and that led to his defeat

    Do you deny that Bush Sr lost because the economy sucked? Clinton inherited a stagnant economy in recession. The only thing that made Clinton's rconomy a success was the technology bubble.
    There is no misinformation. Everything I said is true and documented
    No, that isn't factual. We had a recession during Bush 1 but that recession ended and in fact the GDP growth the last quarter of the Bush term was over 4%. You are providing misinformation and you can get the facts at BEA.gov


    "It’s conservative lore that Reagan the icon cut taxes, while George H.W. Bush the renegade raised them. As Stockman recalls, "No one was authorized to talk about tax increases on Ronald Reagan’s watch, no matter what kind of tax, no matter how justified it was." Yet raising taxes is exactly what Reagan did. He did not always instigate those hikes or agree to them willingly–but he signed off on them. One year after his massive tax cut, Reagan agreed to a tax increase to reduce the deficit that restored fully one-third of the previous year’s reduction. (In a bizarre bit of self-deception, Reagan, who never came to terms with this episode of ideological apostasy, persuaded himself that the three-year, $100 billion tax hike–the largest since World War II–was actually "tax reform" that closed loopholes in his earlier cut and therefore didn’t count as raising taxes.)
    the economic results speak for themselves and so do the American people and historians in their support for Reagan.

    Faced with looming deficits, Reagan raised taxes again in 1983 with a gasoline tax and once more in 1984, this time by $50 billion over three years, mainly through closing tax loopholes for business. Despite the fact that such increases were anathema to conservatives–and probably cost Reagan’s successor, George H.W. Bush, reelection–Reagan raised taxes a grand total of four times just between 1982-84
    GHWB Was no Ronald Reagan but was a better alternative to Clinton. The tax increases Reagan implemented were for as stated, FICA which is SS and excise taxes that non drivers didn't pay. I support a consumption tax and always have vs. a progressive income tax.

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, Reagan raised FICA taxes and I know you realize where those taxes go, the SS fund which comes back to the tax payers. Where do income tax increases go?

    Bush Sr. raised taxes and that led to his defeat



    No, that isn't factual. We had a recession during Bush 1 but that recession ended and in fact the GDP growth the last quarter of the Bush term was over 4%. You are providing misinformation and you can get the facts at BEA.gov




    the economic results speak for themselves and so do the American people and historians in their support for Reagan.



    GHWB Was no Ronald Reagan but was a better alternative to Clinton. The tax increases Reagan implemented were for as stated, FICA which is SS and excise taxes that non drivers didn't pay. I support a consumption tax and always have vs. a progressive income tax.
    So you admit Reagan actually raised taxes and Bush Sr had a major recession during his term. That is the point I was trying to make.

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_1980s_recession]Early 1980s recession - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    The Early 1980s recession was a severe recession in the United States which began in December of 1980 and ended in November 1982.

    The truth is I voted for Reagan over Carter and Bush Sr over Clinton.

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    So you admit Reagan actually raised taxes and Bush Sr had a major recession during his term. That is the point I was trying to make.

    Early 1980s recession - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Early 1980s recession was a severe recession in the United States which began in December of 1980 and ended in November 1982.

    The truth is I voted for Reagan over Carter and Bush Sr over Clinton.
    Reagan and Carter converted me from being a Democrat. I have the same voting record as you.

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Reagan cut taxes?
    The only problem with this analysis is that it is historically inaccurate. Reagan may have resisted calls for tax increases, but he ultimately supported them. In 1982 alone, he signed into law not one but two major tax increases. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act (TEFRA) raised taxes by $37.5 billion per year and the Highway Revenue Act raised the gasoline tax by another $3.3 billion.

    According to a recent Treasury Department study, TEFRA alone raised taxes by almost 1 percent of the gross domestic product, making it the largest peacetime tax increase in American history. An increase of similar magnitude today would raise more than $100 billion per year.

    In 1983, Reagan signed legislation raising the Social Security tax rate. This is a tax increase that lives with us still, since it initiated automatic increases in the taxable wage base. As a consequence, those with moderately high earnings see their payroll taxes rise every single year.

    In 1984, Reagan signed another big tax increase in the Deficit Reduction Act. This raised taxes by $18 billion per year or 0.4 percent of GDP. A similar-sized tax increase today would be about $44 billion.

    The Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 raised taxes yet again. Even the Tax Reform Act of 1986, which was designed to be revenue-neutral, contained a net tax increase in its first 2 years. And the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987 raised taxes still more.

    The year 1988 appears to be the only year of the Reagan presidency, other than the first, in which taxes were not raised legislatively. Of course, previous tax increases remained in effect. According to a table in the 1990 budget, the net effect of all these tax increases was to raise taxes by $164 billion in 1992, or 2.6 percent of GDP. This is equivalent to almost $300 billion in today's economy.


    The truth is Reagan raised taxes.
    His "getting America moving in the right direction" was extremely short lived and Bush Sr paid for reagans policies.
    LOL - I wrote the following and you quoted it:

    "Originally Posted by Tom Jones
    That's because the House was controlled by the Democrats while Reagan was in office - not until Reagan took his argument to the people time and time again was he able to get things moving in the right direction - Reagan's having to take it to the people is common knowledge."

    Tell me, please - where does it say that I said anything about Reagan cutting taxes - you're confused.

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Reagan and Carter converted me from being a Democrat. I have the same voting record as you.
    Reagan and Bush 41 converted me from my family's roots of being Republican.

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    Re: Sarah Palin to Contribute to Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    If you think I stated something that is not factual, please do point it out. But, I would ask you to use facts to support your claim, not empty rhetoric as some here have a habit of doing. Thank you.
    You're the one spewing out absurd conspiracy theories with no support of your wacky claims. It's up to you to put up or shut up.

    And please, no nutjob truther conspiracy websites.

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