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    Re: Fears that World Cup could increase spread of HIV

    Quote Originally Posted by MsRetro View Post
    I agree that prostitution should be legalized, but pimping/pandering should remain criminalized.

    Can't get behind "the buyers deserve what they get". Many of these men are married, and almost certainly have unprotected sex with their wives.
    I can't get what good is it to blame someone for a system that should be regulated. Its like if a surgeon operated on your wrong leg would that be your fault?

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    Re: Fears that World Cup could increase spread of HIV

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why do you care if South Africa has prostitution?
    Why do you care if I care?
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    Re: Fears that World Cup could increase spread of HIV

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Question: which one of the following people is adhering to a higher standard:

    Person 1: I didn't sleep with the prostitute because I think that it is wrong
    Person 2: I didn't sleep with a prostitute because it is illegal and I'd get in trouble.
    You forgot,
    Person 3: I didn't sleep with a prostitute because I don't have to pay for sex.

    I understand why you didn't add that... paying being a norm for you, however...
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    Re: Fears that World Cup could increase spread of HIV

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    I can't get what good is it to blame someone for a system that should be regulated. Its like if a surgeon operated on your wrong leg would that be your fault?
    I'm not quite sure I completely understand your question, but, are you asking why I think prostitution should be legal, but pandering should not?

    It is because this removes the element of a pimp coercing and living off the efforts of a prostitute. This also reduces the involvement of organized crime. Canadian law already reflects this, and it's regarded by many as successful.
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    Re: Fears that World Cup could increase spread of HIV

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You forgot,
    Person 3: I didn't sleep with a prostitute because I don't have to pay for sex.

    I understand why you didn't add that... paying being a norm for you, however...
    I wasn't giving an exhaustive list of reasons to not use prostitutes.

    Otherwise I would have included:

    Person 4. There's no prostitute on Earth who needs the money that bad


    as one of the options so that you wouldn't feel left out

    Seriously, though, which of the two options I did give would you consider a higher standard of behavior?
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    Re: Fears that World Cup could increase spread of HIV

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Why do you care if I care?
    Pure curiosity.
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    Re: Fears that World Cup could increase spread of HIV

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You forgot,
    Person 3: I didn't sleep with a prostitute because I don't have to pay for sex.

    I understand why you didn't add that... paying being a norm for you, however...
    You forgot,
    Person 4: I paid for a prostitute because I was too lazy to put in the effort of getting a freebie.

    Really why do you care what people do with their money? You think its ok to have sex with a girl who you've just met is any better than paying for a hooker? What about the number of guys who get free sex, players, who don't respect women? Are they somehow better than a guy who pays for a hooker?

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    Re: Fears that World Cup could increase spread of HIV

    Quote Originally Posted by MsRetro View Post
    I'm not quite sure I completely understand your question, but, are you asking why I think prostitution should be legal, but pandering should not?

    It is because this removes the element of a pimp coercing and living off the efforts of a prostitute. This also reduces the involvement of organized crime. Canadian law already reflects this, and it's regarded by many as successful.
    No you got it completely wrong. I was saying that the poster who said you get what you deserve is completely wrong for saying that. Because bad things happen but they happen less with responsibility and regulation than it being completely illegal.

    Also, in the RLD of Amsterdam there is a serious problem with crime. You'd be surprised how many of the girls there are from the US.

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    Re: Fears that World Cup could increase spread of HIV

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    No you got it completely wrong. I was saying that the poster who said you get what you deserve is completely wrong for saying that. Because bad things happen but they happen less with responsibility and regulation than it being completely illegal.

    Also, in the RLD of Amsterdam there is a serious problem with crime. You'd be surprised how many of the girls there are from the US.
    Thank you, it makes sense now!
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    Re: Fears that World Cup could increase spread of HIV

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Do you think that was the point? Or is it such a "mean" thought, that you felt you needed to show how small the problem really was? Of course, your rosey numbers merely show ignorance, if the threat was so small... why is there an article?
    Did you actually just say "if the threat is so small, why did the media make a big deal about it?"



    Are you completely unfamiliar with the way that journalism works?

    If HIV infection is so weak, why is it a problem?
    Because most people transmit it through repeated, long term intercourse, more risky intercourse, or intravenous drug use. Again, the transmission rate I used is science. You don't have to like it, but you don't get to just toss it out because it doesn't sound right to you or doesn't fit your narrative.

    The point I was trying to make, and the one you missed in your righteous indignation... is very simple. HIV is easily avoidable, don't sleep with high risk people.

    The Paid Ladies in South Africa have a known 50% infection rate.

    Only an IDIOT would risk it
    I agree. However, it's obviously not the huge deal that you're making it seem.

    That's common sense, but no... that's too mean for the likes of you. No no, you think this was a hate thread from a judgmental Bible thumper. So you came in to show not all "conservative minded people" are so hateful. I'm well aware of your gig RightinNYC.
    You don't have to be a bible-thumper to make ignorant statements about people with HIV.

    Oh and your statistic, assumed that every condom worn would be worn perfectly. You know damned well condoms aren't worn properly.
    So let's pretend that every single person goes bareback. We're up to 12 and a half infections now.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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