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    Re: The new Iranian uprising - This time, the Mullahs will fall

    I would like to agree with the OP but....

    I am an active Twitterer. I had a green avatar on there in suppport of the revolution from the beginning. The revolution has been broadcase live there from day one. unfortunately, I fear, the short attention span of the West will be the down fall of this movement. I am sure there are CIA ops in country enabling and funding the resistance, but Iran has fought it long enough that it is no longer a major story. They have closed most avenues of communication with the outside world, save Twitter. Not that long ago, a DNS (denial of service) was attributed to Iran's Intelligence stopping the revolutions main venue to voice it

    They killed neda on video and while she is now the face of the revolution it has gone too long Neda Soltan, Young Woman Hailed as Martyr in Iran, Becomes Face of Protests - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com her tomb has been desecrated as well.

    I wish them all the best of luck, but the Mullah's have already made their guy the president despite the 'true election results'. figure heads and leading members are being arrested or killed. And no foriegn power will do a thing since it is an internal matter (officially).

    Brutality will win over Ideology

    a heavy price will be paid, even long after the revolt ends, in the dark of night

    sad, but that is what I see happening. They came so close to becoming a 21st century country but those in power will endure whatever criticism they must to maintain control

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    Re: The new Iranian uprising - This time, the Mullahs will fall

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    The new Iranian uprising - This time, the Mullahs will fallLet's stick to the topic of the Iranian uprising. There is no need to inject partisan trolling in this thread.
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    Re: The new Iranian uprising - This time, the Mullahs will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok, and John Kerry is planning to visit Iran and lend credibility to the Iranian government. Does your crybaby rant about partisanship mean that you support Kerry's mission?

    Oh, BTW, the protesters really don't want Kerry to pay Ahmainajihad a friendly visit.
    I had no idea that John Kerry was able to legitimize governments.
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    Re: The new Iranian uprising - This time, the Mullahs will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I had no idea that John Kerry was able to legitimize governments.
    A United States Senator, sent on a trip to visit the government of another country, by the president won't add legitimacy to a government?

    As far as I know, the president wouldn't send a member of Congress to visit a government that our government didn't recognize. That's how it works in the diplomatic world, isn't it?
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    Re: The new Iranian uprising - This time, the Mullahs will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And the opposition movement has been based on nonviolence so far.
    Not exactly true. At first they didn't fight back because they couldn't. The other guys have the bigger guns. But now they're starting to get rougher, as evidenced by the picture in the OP.

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    No. I'm sorry it isn't all of Iran. Its mostly urban youth that are middle-class.
    Even if that were true (it's not), a very large portion of the Iranian population is urban middle-class youths.

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    Re: The new Iranian uprising - This time, the Mullahs will fall

    The Iranian government has announced that there will be no more Mr nice guy. Expect some more cracked heads and deaths. The "revolution" is not going to happen soon.
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    Re: The new Iranian uprising - This time, the Mullahs will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Not exactly true. At first they didn't fight back because they couldn't. The other guys have the bigger guns. But now they're starting to get rougher, as evidenced by the picture in the OP.
    That's the nature of protests; some people behave differently than most. For the most part though, it's been a nonviolent movement. Moreover, I think sending them guns wouldn't be wise. If the struggle DOES become an outright violent confrontation between the protesters and the military, the military would easily win.

    As long as the protests stay mostly nonviolent, there is the real possibility that most of the Revolutionary Guard will switch sides (which, obviously, would spell the end of the regime). Many of them are already refusing to obey orders to fire on peaceful protesters. IMO the goal of the protests should be to encourage the military to join them, not to kill them.
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    Re: The new Iranian uprising - This time, the Mullahs will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Simple you ask what can we do us outside of Iran for starters here in the United State we can go and take over the Iran UN mission else were in the World attack Iran Embass by the Free people of the World.

    The more we attack Iran interest in the World the more they have to start thinking about what they are doing in their Country. Basic law of War attack anything of your enemys when every you can.
    Iran has several options, it can use its police and military to subdue the population openly, or it could use Hezbollah covertly to kill revolution leaders. I say we send in SOF to kill off Hezbollah wherever they are, so that whatever Iran does will be public.
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    Re: The new Iranian uprising - This time, the Mullahs will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    I would like to agree with the OP but....

    I am an active Twitterer. I had a green avatar on there in suppport of the revolution from the beginning. The revolution has been broadcase live there from day one. unfortunately, I fear, the short attention span of the West will be the down fall of this movement. I am sure there are CIA ops in country enabling and funding the resistance, but Iran has fought it long enough that it is no longer a major story. They have closed most avenues of communication with the outside world, save Twitter. Not that long ago, a DNS (denial of service) was attributed to Iran's Intelligence stopping the revolutions main venue to voice it

    They killed neda on video and while she is now the face of the revolution it has gone too long Neda Soltan, Young Woman Hailed as Martyr in Iran, Becomes Face of Protests - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com her tomb has been desecrated as well.

    I wish them all the best of luck, but the Mullah's have already made their guy the president despite the 'true election results'. figure heads and leading members are being arrested or killed. And no foriegn power will do a thing since it is an internal matter (officially).

    Brutality will win over Ideology

    a heavy price will be paid, even long after the revolt ends, in the dark of night

    sad, but that is what I see happening. They came so close to becoming a 21st century country but those in power will endure whatever criticism they must to maintain control
    Precisly!

    This is why Basji militia members need to be quietly killed off. Then IRG members, then Aminijihad, and finally the Ayetoiletbowl himself.

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    Re: The new Iranian uprising - This time, the Mullahs will fall

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This thread isn't about John Kerry or any other Democrat, or Republican, for that matter. It is a serious thread about the Iranian uprising, and the defeat of religious extremism, and I would like to see serious debate in this thread, instead of it turning into a flame war between hyperpartisans. Please stick to the topic, and stop being a troll.
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