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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I didn't ask factcheck.org, I asked you.
    Yeah, but I don't think the constitution is violated.
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Again, what specific parts of the constitution are being violated?
    16th amendment.

    9th amendment.

    10th amendment.

    Article I, section 8.

    Article I, section 9, clause 3.

    Article IV, section 2, clause 1.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

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    The question is whether congress can require people to buy insurance or pay a fine. Brief article on the topic: Health Care and the Founding Fathers | FactCheck.org


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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The question is whether congress can require people to buy insurance or pay a fine. Brief article on the topic: Health Care and the Founding Fathers | FactCheck.org
    Interesting spin on the constitution...

    Section 8 - Powers of Congress

    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
    Do you want to tear it apart, or do you insist that I do?
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    The fact of the matter is that he did vote for the bill so he is just another phony politician trying to have it both ways.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Interesting spin on the constitution...



    Do you want to tear it apart, or do you insist that I do?
    Since you have to buy your insurance within a state, it is not interstate commerce, consequently the Congress has no jurisdiction. Forcing a citizen to buy any single product also constitutes socialism.
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Since you have to buy your insurance within a state, it is not interstate commerce, consequently the Congress has no jurisdiction. Forcing a citizen to buy any single product also constitutes socialism.
    Right on your first comment, but forcing a citizen to buy any product is totally deranged, and unprecedented in the history of this country, not socialism…. With socialism, they would give it to you free of charge. (for those that pay no taxes…. The rest of us get to pay for them)
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Care to point out the socialist in Washington that you are referring to?
    Red: No hysteria, just a complete understanding of the Constitution, based on The Federalist Papers, biographies of the Founding Fathers, and studies of the decisions of the SCOTUS. If you call collective rape of the constitution by progressive justices and members of Congress who have been perpetually undermining the limits placed on federal government "hysteria" then YOU don't understand liberty at all, much less how much of it we have lost in the name of "The Common Good".

    DONC: As far a who are the socialists, since you lack the intestinal fortitude to research and derive your own understanding of socialism, I'll explain it to you...

    Every stinkin' member of Congress with a (D) beside their name are socialists, plus a few (R)'s like Lindsey Graham, and McCain.. for additional (R) socialists refer to Republican Progressive Caucus.

    THEY have taken over control of around 30% of our nations private businesses and if THEY can pass Cap and TAX, and the Healthscare Bill they will have taken over nearly 70% of American business... I won't trouble you with a definition of socialism.. you can Google that all by yourself...
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

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    DONC: As far a who are the socialists, since you lack the intestinal fortitude to research and derive your own understanding of socialism, I'll explain it to you...

    Every stinkin' member of Congress with a (D) beside their name are socialists, plus a few (R)'s like Lindsey Graham, and McCain.. for additional (R) socialists refer to Republican Progressive Caucus.

    Oh I have <“the intestinal fortitude to research and derive my own understanding of socialism”>just wanted a good chuckle and you gave me that with your lame attempt at calling anyone with a “D” a socialist.

    I also see that you got your memo from “Winger Central” about calling everyone the wingers don’t agree with socialist. Kinda smacks of McCarthy ara fear mongering to me. With commies, socialist in this case, hiding behind the big “D”, ready to pounce on the unsuspecting citizenry when the command is given.


    THEY have taken over control of around 30% of our nations private businesses and if THEY can pass Cap and TAX, and the Healthscare Bill they will have taken over nearly 70% of American business... I won't trouble you with a definition of socialism.. you can Google that all by yourself...

    Ohooo… the mysterious…THEY. I’m sure glad you have managed to identity who “THEY” are.

    Could the big “D” be the mark of the beast? Nah, I believe the mark of the beast had three numbers rather than a big “D” but you cant be to careful, cant have these evil doers slipping things past us , even paranoids are right once in a while.

    Cap and trade and healthcare are both a gift to the corporate masters, you know, the ones funding the lobbyist (both worldwide industrial and insurance companies) that have infiltrated our political system ,both parties. The last thing the puppet masters (whom the majority of have a big “R” on them) want would be a socialist government.
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The weak-spined Democrats need to worry if they don't stop acting like Republicans and if they don't start doing the things that they were elected to do.
    If someone loses his job for helping to pass Thew Obama's Health Care takeover, it is because they were NOT doing the job they were elected to do.
    The American people are not happy with the healthcare bill NOT because they don't want Healthcare reform as the party of NO would like to spin this.
    They aren't happy with it because of the watering down that people like Lieberman and the other weak Democrats foisted upon them.
    This is an unsupportable assertion.

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