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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yes, that's right, push for a single payer UHC system. Go ahead. See how well the "people" love you then.
    Who is saying anything about "single payer"?

    While personally I believe that this is the way we need to go, there never was anything about "single payer/UHC" in any of the bills...nor was it ever the subject of much more than a mere mention in any of the debate.
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Harry Reid is really not very smart but has no doubt socked away a lot of his ill gotten gains as a corrupt politician to retire on back in that little wide spot on Highway 95 on the way to Sin City which has a population of less than 800. Where the Town leader is chosen because they are the one who has more than one tooth in front.

    Okay that's not fair I have actually seen plenty of people there with 4 even 5 teeth in front.

    Seriously Reid has trailed in the polls for a very long time and has pissed off the Las Vegas Review Journal and is called out by them on a regular basis. There may be a few Dims (no spell error) who can convince people back home their anti American activities were something they were not but I don't think so. People are slowly coming out of the brain fog condition Obama has had them in and the polls show it. The Liberal tactic of cover the last lie with and even bigger one has just about petered out finally.
    Ah yes, leave it to someone from riverside county to start out by counting the number of teeth someone has in their head; wonder why that is?
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you really think that 11 months from now, 12 senators who supported this will be out a job over this? The economy is going to be the big determinant to who people vote for in 2010. If the economy is improved significantly, dems will do well, it not, then dems won't do well. Health care is not going to be the big issue people vote on.
    Yes, I think it will be. It's inspired the conservative base, and the harder left your party pushes with such idiocy as Cap and Trade, higher taxes... and let's not forget that there are at least 13 states preparing to file lawsuits challenging this Health Care Bill should it pass.... it'll be in the news come Nov 2010.
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Its the economy......stupid.
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its the economy......stupid.
    Last I checked, it aint doing so well, ever since the Dems took office in '06.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Last I checked, it aint doing so well, ever since the Dems took office in '06.
    Which has nothing to do whatsoever with the actions of any previous congresses or presidents.
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Which has nothing to do whatsoever with the actions of any previous congresses or presidents.
    Sure it does, nothing works in a vacuum, you can trace many of the problems all the way back to the 1970's, and in the last 39 years little was done to correct it. As far as voters are concerned precedence means little compared to the present results, considering we as an electorate have very short attention spans. That being said, the majority party is looking to double down on the very things that failed in the 1970's and think either:
    1) We will get a different result(the very definition of insanity)
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    2) They think enough of us do not know that their policies are similar and will have the disastrous effect on our current economy they want to hide.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Do you really think that 11 months from now, 12 senators who supported this will be out a job over this? The economy is going to be the big determinant to who people vote for in 2010. If the economy is improved significantly, dems will do well, it not, then dems won't do well. Health care is not going to be the big issue people vote on.
    People's memories aren't that short. The health care bill was a very big issue, and most polls which asked the question showed that it affected the way people were going to vote in 2010. The economy will be on people's minds too, but it won't be the sole determinant of the outcome.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The weak-spined Democrats need to worry if they don't stop acting like Republicans and if they don't start doing the things that they were elected to do.
    The American people are not happy with the healthcare bill NOT because they don't want Healthcare reform as the party of NO would like to spin this.
    They aren't happy with it because of the watering down that people like Lieberman and the other weak Democrats foisted upon them.

    One thing is for certain though...the American people understand that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats who act like Republicans....so if the Democrats don't start acting like Democrats...there is no harm in bringing back Republicans that mismanaged this country so badly the last time they were in power.
    No offense but you're showing a profound ignorance of local politics here. The fact is that most of those blue-dog Democrats who "act like Republicans" (which isn't true to begin with, but never mind that) are elected in Republican-leaning districts. If they weren't so moderate, they would fail to be elected and a Republican would win instead. The Democrats need those blue-dogs.

    You might be interested in this; Nate Silver calculates the "most valuable" and "least valuable" Democrats to the Democratic Party as a whole:
    FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: 2009's Most Valuable Democrat Is...

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yes, I think it will be. It's inspired the conservative base, and the harder left your party pushes with such idiocy as Cap and Trade, higher taxes... and let's not forget that there are at least 13 states preparing to file lawsuits challenging this Health Care Bill should it pass.... it'll be in the news come Nov 2010.
    But you also have to remember that it is energizing the liberal base as well, in the opposite direction. I really do think it will be a null factor for the most part come November.
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