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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by EmpiricalTruth View Post
    Theres many different versions of socialism. Many of them are interested in voluntarism.
    And many of them crush liberty.

    You cannot prove that property exists.
    Absolutely I can.
    See that house? It's mine.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by EmpiricalTruth View Post
    You cannot prove that property exists.
    Sure you can.

    Try stealing something which you have no legal claim to, and you go to jail. See? Property exists.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by EmpiricalTruth View Post
    Theres many different versions of socialism. Many of them are interested in voluntarism.

    Its not contrary to human nature as many communistic viewpoints are all over the place. People naturally like to do what it is they love. With computers (namely wikipedia or the linux operating system... which is far superior to windows or mac) public means to control production is a reality. It also works out great.

    For this to transcend into everyday non-computer life we simply need technology to take over the boring aspects of life, which they have been accomplishing. Its only a matter of time before so much of the doldrumatic parts of life are taken over and humanity would be left to do what it pleases

    You cannot prove that property exists. You can prove that you use something, but to say that its yours is laughable. Capitalist philosophy is nothing but rhetoric to achieve a miserable goal.
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by EmpiricalTruth View Post
    Theres many different versions of socialism. Many of them are interested in voluntarism.

    Its not contrary to human nature as many communistic viewpoints are all over the place. People naturally like to do what it is they love. With computers (namely wikipedia or the linux operating system... which is far superior to windows or mac) public means to control production is a reality. It also works out great.

    For this to transcend into everyday non-computer life we simply need technology to take over the boring aspects of life, which they have been accomplishing. Its only a matter of time before so much of the doldrumatic parts of life are taken over and humanity would be left to do what it pleases

    You cannot prove that property exists. You can prove that you use something, but to say that its yours is laughable. Capitalist philosophy is nothing but rhetoric to achieve a miserable goal.
    Enter my home, (my property) and I will shoot you.... legally.

    Steal my truck, (my property) and you will go to jail if caught.

    Same for if you enter my home, (my property) and steal my TV. (my property)

    Where you commies get your weird ideas is totally beyond me, but it would be best if you didn't try to apply them to real life..... life will get real for you, real fast.
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Enter my home, (my property) and I will shoot you.... legally.

    Steal my truck, (my property) and you will go to jail if caught.

    Same for if you enter my home, (my property) and steal my TV. (my property)

    Where you commies get your weird ideas is totally beyond me, but it would be best if you didn't try to apply them to real life..... life will get real for you, real fast.
    So what you're saying is, it is your property because you have the force, or access to force, to defend your property. Am I right?
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    So what you're saying is, it is your property because you have the force, or access to force, to defend your property. Am I right?
    That's how it works with most animals; I don't see why humans would be different.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    even more fundamentally; our other freedoms derive from property rights because first and foremost, we own ourself. you're body is your primary property, and within limits you have the right to do with it what you wish. the "property doesn't exist" argument is really a "Freedom Doesn't Exist Because You Are All Slaves" argument.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    That's how it works with most animals; I don't see why humans would be different.
    So if I put a gun to your head and took your stuff, you agree it would be my stuff, unless you can use even more force to get it back from me, right?
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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    So if I put a gun to your head and took your stuff, you agree it would be my stuff, unless you can use even more force to get it back from me, right?
    That is correct. And I do have even more force to get it back from you. It's called the government, and the police.

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    Re: Dems not worried about post-vote backlash at home

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    That is correct. And I do have even more force to get it back from you. It's called the government, and the police.
    That's exactly what I was getting at.
    The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet the Makeout Hobo, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

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