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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    it's meaningless!!

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    People that only look at rational politics are going to mis-judge again and again.

    So much of politics has to do with peoples and entities perceptions of one another, as well as their perception of themselves. Disregarding that is downright wrong.
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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    People that only look at rational politics are going to mis-judge again and again.

    So much of politics has to do with peoples and entities perceptions of one another, as well as their perception of themselves. Disregarding that is downright wrong.
    one should not take to much stock in something they can't review/examine for themselves.

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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    one should not take to much stock in something they can't review/examine for themselves.

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    Then every survey you have ever read is bull****.
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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    ONE of the reasons that Obama will be go down as one of the best President's ever.

    How old are you? Seriously....
    Except your ONE reason is totally asinine.

    Other countries liking us more doesn't mean Obama is doing a good job as President of the United States; the two concepts are not always mutually inclusive.

    For instance, what if other countries liked us more because Obama gave them the Eastern seaboard for free? Does that mean he's doing a good job as President? Of course not! You have to ask WHY they like America more in order to ascertain the quality of his Presidency.

    Do they like us better because Obama is more in line with their political ideologies? Do they like us better because Obama is more willing to accommodate their interests? Do they like us better because Obama is black?

    You didn't even attempt such an inquiry, and chose instead to fawn and adulate.
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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    Yes. Likely the only logical Conservative post in this entire thread

    People don't know the meaning of logical debate anymore... Especially Republicans. It's a lot of mud-slinging and then even more nonsense. I'm usually surprised when they'll even get a little bit of rhetoric in, even if empty, as opposed to the usual lame a** personal insults.

    There was a time when it was the Republicans who were reasonable and always sober and many Democrats that had to revert to name-calling and ad hominem in any political discussion, but it seems today that is a thing of the past.

    Get off the pain killers, stop pmsing, and read some godd*mn books. You think the problem with the Republican Party is that it is too liberal? Get real. You guys spend more time attacking fellow Republicans than you spend defending the Republican Party! Jesus Christ... GO make your Tea Party already.
    .....says the illogical guy slinging mud and making lame ass personal insults. I find this statement, in this post very ironic.
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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    .....says the illogical guy slinging mud and making lame ass personal insults. I find this statement, in this post very ironic.
    You're like a truther... Just gettin' a rise out of people.

    This is a waste of my time.
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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Except your ONE reason is totally asinine.
    fine... I will list you the reasons and you can try to disassociate him from every one. This should be interesting:

    1- Iraq war. He is ending it in a reasonable and logical fashion, instead of withdrawing too quickly or trying to re-negotiate the Iraqi mandate.

    2- Afghanistan. He re-evaluated the situation in an intelligent manner, proving to US allies that this is not another Vietnam and that we have carefully sketched out what we are doing. We have clear goals and objectives.

    I did get impatient about a month ago because he was taking too long, but would not fashion it as "dithering."Iliked his West Point address, but was looking for more. He gave it when he received the Noble Peace Prize. He is committing to victory in Afghanistan as well as getting NATO to contribute more. His leadership is being proven again and again.

    3- Torture and Guantanamo. He didn't release the embarrassing torture photos. He decided to be bold and close Guantanamo to re-assert American moral superiority. He is going to try terrorists in the American judicial system, proving that democracy does not equate weakness and we can try these ****ers in our system.

    4- Global war on terrorism. He is not shying away from it nor is he in anyway losing ground, as Cheney tries to depict the situation... There has not been one domestic terrorist attack(there has been multiple foiled) and we have caught multiple high-profile terrorists overseas. I would say that Bush was starting to improve the "global" part of the War on Terror before he left but that doesn't give less credibility to Obama for continue it in good stead.

    5- American popularity. There's not much to say to people who balk at this except that is about all they can do: Balk. America needs to continue to hold a good image worldwide to retain its prominence and power. All those people that want to shove America down the toilet through arrogance and unilateralism, goodbye!


    6- Battling the military-industrial complex. This goes along with keeping Robert Gates as the SoD, arguably the very best we've had in the position in history... at the very least among them. The rest you can read for yourself, because I gotta go like right now...


    I have to go so I'll respond later to the rest... The above should be enough to get you seething anyway HAHAHA! Even in world affairs I would give Obama the same as he gave himself, a nice B+!

    Cheers brother and MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    Then every survey you have ever read is bull****.
    nope!

    the surveys that have credibility are the ones where you can see the questions, the answers and who they asked, as compared to this survey which shows nothing on any of those 3 points.

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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    fine... I will list you the reasons and you can try to disassociate him from every one. This should be interesting:

    1- Iraq war. He is ending it in a reasonable and logical fashion, instead of withdrawing too quickly or trying to re-negotiate the Iraqi mandate.

    2- Afghanistan. He re-evaluated the situation in an intelligent manner, proving to US allies that this is not another Vietnam and that we have carefully sketched out what we are doing. We have clear goals and objectives.

    I did get impatient about a month ago because he was taking too long, but would not fashion it as "dithering."Iliked his West Point address, but was looking for more. He gave it when he received the Noble Peace Prize. He is committing to victory in Afghanistan as well as getting NATO to contribute more. His leadership is being proven again and again.

    3- Torture and Guantanamo. He didn't release the embarrassing torture photos. He decided to be bold and close Guantanamo to re-assert American moral superiority. He is going to try terrorists in the American judicial system, proving that democracy does not equate weakness and we can try these ****ers in our system.

    4- Global war on terrorism. He is not shying away from it nor is he in anyway losing ground, as Cheney tries to depict the situation... There has not been one domestic terrorist attack(there has been multiple foiled) and we have caught multiple high-profile terrorists overseas. I would say that Bush was starting to improve the "global" part of the War on Terror before he left but that doesn't give less credibility to Obama for continue it in good stead.

    5- American popularity. There's not much to say to people who balk at this except that is about all they can do: Balk. America needs to continue to hold a good image worldwide to retain its prominence and power. All those people that want to shove America down the toilet through arrogance and unilateralism, goodbye!


    6- Battling the military-industrial complex. This goes along with keeping Robert Gates as the SoD, arguably the very best we've had in the position in history... at the very least among them. The rest you can read for yourself, because I gotta go like right now...


    I have to go so I'll respond later to the rest... The above should be enough to get you seething anyway HAHAHA! Even in world affairs I would give Obama the same as he gave himself, a nice B+!

    Cheers brother and MERRY CHRISTMAS!
    Your logic is flawless. I'm at a loss.

    Merry Christmas.


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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Does this mean that if I find $11.8 trillion lying around someplace, I can use it to buy the United States of America?
    No, but if you are lucky, you might be able to afford a loaf of bread. On the other hand, if you aren't lucky, then at least you will have plenty of kindling to get you through the cold winter.
    The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016

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