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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    Obama attains massive achievment

    (NBI stands for National Brand Index. It is an analysis of peoples' perceptions of certain countries that directly affects the attractiveness of their products and services... "That means U.S. goods, services, people, and even the country's landscape are about 20 percent more enticing to the global market than they were in 2008.")




    This is only one reason that Obama will go down as one of America's best Presidents ever.
    Yea, Obama will be one of the best American Presidents ever because OTHER countries like him. Great logic...

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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Bush Senior had a meager 34% approval going into the 1992 election. The most recent 2008 poll gives him a solid 60% positive rating.

    And we really want to argue, Bush Jr should go down as the worst president by the logic you've given.

    God know what Lincoln was polled at during the darkest days of the Civil War.

    Contemporary polls are pretty worthless in determining the future view of a president.
    Interesting find:

    You don't know just how right you are.

    Each day of the Obama presidency seems to bring a new, perversely delicious irony. Last week, on the same day that Mr. Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize solely for being the "anti-Bush," former President George W. Bush got a lovely prize of his own: the growing appreciation of the American people.

    Public Policy Polling released a new survey that showed that while 50 percent preferred Mr. Obama to Mr. Bush, a stunning 44 percent preferred Mr. Bush to Mr. Obama. Further, a separate poll showed public approval of former Vice President Dick Cheney moving up by 10 points to 39 percent.

    Making these poll numbers even more remarkable is Mr. Obama's own free-falling job approval: He's routinely below 50 percent, with some polls showing him as low as 43 percent. A year ago, when Mr. Bush suffered from dismal approval ratings and hope ran high for the changing of the guard to Mr. Obama, the idea of Mr. Bush surpassing Mr. Obama in public popularity was laughable.....

    ......The re-evaluation of Mr. Bush is occurring for two main reasons. 1) The expectations set by Mr. Obama, his campaign, and those who supported him that he would be a kind of Magical Merlin, capable of changing human nature and the interests of nations, were always impossible. He is perceived as failing because there was never any way he could have delivered the lofty, saviorlike promises he made. He is as earth-bound as was Mr. Bush.

    And 2) It's quickly dawning on more and more people that the presidency is difficult. This obvious reality is often overlooked until a president leaves office and is replaced by a successor who appears submerged by the responsibilities. It's "the hardest job in the world" for a reason: Every day brings a new, impossible challenge that demands immediate attention; some new, tough decision that must be made; some new, unprecedented problem that needs to be solved. The gig is no picnic, and executive experience matters. In an interview on Sunday's "60 Minutes," when Mr. Obama was asked about making hard decisions, he literally blurted out, "This is really hard.".......

    ........Mr. Obama acts as if he's the first president to inherit a complicated, dangerous and messy situation. From George Washington, who became the first president out of the ravages of the Revolutionary War, to Mr. Bush, who inherited a nation about to be attacked by a ruthless Islamic terrorist enemy, every president has come to office with a full plate. Mr. Obama behaves as if he's the first one to face intractable challenges. Perhaps this is because in his narcissism, he believed he would be able to melt them away with the sheer force of his persona. He's just now discovering that that is not going to happen.

    Over the past year, it has become increasingly clear that on a range of issues, Mr. Bush was right. On the war on terror, he was right about Afghanistan, Iraq, Guantanamo Bay, indefinite detention, military tribunals and treating it as a war and not a criminal-justice problem. Mr. Obama seems to recognize how right Mr. Bush was by embracing many of his counterterrorism policies. In his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech, he channeled Mr. Bush as he justified fighting the terrorist enemy, surging troops in Afghanistan and recognizing the need to smash evil. ........


    ......Given what we've experienced over the past year from the new president - from apologies for America to decisions to add trillions to the deficit and debt and nationalize health care and regulate carbon dioxide and bring Khalid Shaikh Mohammed to New York for trial to failing to improve the unemployment picture - Mr. Bush is looking better and better. Was he perfect? No. Did he make mistakes? Yes, he did, just as all presidents do. But in retrospect, many who derided him are realizing that the presidency is hard, and he did the best he could - and that was pretty good......
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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    Obama attains massive achievment

    (NBI stands for National Brand Index. It is an analysis of peoples' perceptions of certain countries that directly affects the attractiveness of their products and services... "That means U.S. goods, services, people, and even the country's landscape are about 20 percent more enticing to the global market than they were in 2008.")




    This is only one reason that Obama will go down as one of America's best Presidents ever.
    this is just some made up political non-sense.

    I originally launched the NBI because public perceptions of countries are critically important to their prosperity in a globalized worldI originally launched the NBI because public perceptions of countries are critically important to their prosperity in a globalized world.


    it's simply a measure of whether you like the person in the white house.

    mtm1963

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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Does this mean that if I find $11.8 trillion lying around someplace, I can use it to buy the United States of America?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Does this mean that if I find $11.8 trillion lying around someplace, I can use it to buy the United States of America?
    It's starting to look like it.
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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yea, Obama will be one of the best American Presidents ever because OTHER countries like him. Great logic...
    ONE of the reasons that Obama will be go down as one of the best President's ever.

    How old are you? Seriously....
    “Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checked by failure...than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.”
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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    ONE of the reasons that Obama will be go down as one of the best President's ever.

    How old are you? Seriously....
    Apparently, old enough.
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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    this is just some made up political non-sense.

    I originally launched the NBI because public perceptions of countries are critically important to their prosperity in a globalized worldI originally launched the NBI because public perceptions of countries are critically important to their prosperity in a globalized world.


    it's simply a measure of whether you like the person in the white house.

    mtm1963
    1- The NBI exists for every country around the world, not just the United States.

    2- As stated before, it's only changed drastically when Obama ascended to the Presidency and when a Danish newspaper posted a Mohammed cartoon in one of their issues.

    3- You're undoubtedly right that the President has a lot to do with NBI, but that's by no means a sole factor in determining other peoples perceptions of the USA...
    “Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checked by failure...than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.”
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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    1- The NBI exists for every country around the world, not just the United States.

    2- As stated before, it's only changed drastically when Obama ascended to the Presidency and when a Danish newspaper posted a Mohammed cartoon in one of their issues.

    3- You're undoubtedly right that the President has a lot to do with NBI, but that's by no means a sole factor in determining other peoples perceptions of the USA...
    it's meaningless!!

    mtm1963

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    Re: America's NBI raised from 9.7 trillion to 11.8 trillion in one year

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You are right that Reagan was a great leader, but you are dead wrong that the Republican party did not have a big tent. Here is an excellent article on the subject, and it is dead on in it's assessment.

    Reagan pulled together many Republicans, Conservative, Moderate, and Liberal alike, in order to get his agenda passed. And it was Reagan who created the 11th Commandment "Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican". And Reagan was even able to split the Democratic party's votes. Yes, much of that was due to leadership, but absolutely none of it was due to any kind of "My way or the highway" approach we are seeing now. Reagan's big tent was one of the main reasons his administration was so successful, and why he became one of our greatest presidents.

    In the end, ideological purity is a nice concept, but also a pipe dream. It won't work without a lot of pragmatism to go along with it.
    Yes. Likely the only logical Conservative post in this entire thread

    People don't know the meaning of logical debate anymore... Especially Republicans. It's a lot of mud-slinging and then even more nonsense. I'm usually surprised when they'll even get a little bit of rhetoric in, even if empty, as opposed to the usual lame a** personal insults.

    There was a time when it was the Republicans who were reasonable and always sober and many Democrats that had to revert to name-calling and ad hominem in any political discussion, but it seems today that is a thing of the past.

    Get off the pain killers, stop pmsing, and read some godd*mn books. You think the problem with the Republican Party is that it is too liberal? Get real. You guys spend more time attacking fellow Republicans than you spend defending the Republican Party! Jesus Christ... GO make your Tea Party already.
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