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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    What does success have to do with a black President?
    I'm just saying some people will get that impression.

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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    I'm just saying some people will get that impression.
    That they were successful in secession because we had a black President? Some might see that as a racist black President saying "Good Riddance" to whitey!

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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Ronald Reagan is from California.

    Yeah, good luck with those states operating without any federal funding. Texas won't have that high of a budget surplus when it has to prop up all those states.

    Yeah, because collective bargaining, child labor laws, work safety laws, 40-hour work weeks, and minimum wages are sure signs of a country using slave labor.
    Why do you think we need federal funding? Texas is economically self sufficient. All of this other static is silly. No one is going back to slave labor. The difference between the big government types and regular 'mericans like me is that we believe big government in Washington, D.C. are largely a bunch of buffoons and political prostitutes who live high on the hog while the rest of us peons in "fly-over" country are ignored. They can take a flying leap. We don't need them. But they sure as hell need us.

    I don't know where you get the idea that Texas would have to prop up any of those other states. None of them are wards of the federal government. But most of the Democratic states are. Just look at Michigan to name one example. That is the result of Democratic policies. Union thugs and corrupt politicians.

    As for California it has gone straight into the toilet since the days of Ronald Reagan. It is bankrupt, ungovernable and a blight on the rest of the nation. I say give it back to Mexico. They deserve one another.
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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock
    Here is something to ponder. The rest of the states are broke and Texas is running a budget surplus that exceeded 8 billion dollors in 2008.
    Calling it a 'budget surplus' is kinda misleading. It's a rainy day fund established in 1988 for special emergencies with natural gas and oil tax revenues being the main source of funding.

    Yeah, there's money there but it's not available for general use, not that it hasn't been immune from lack of legislators trying to get at it - think raiding of SS funds from the Federal general budget. The good thing - it requires a three-fifths vote to transfer money away from the fund.

    Texas does have budget problems, like everyone else, but they're getting by with a little help from their friends, even though most of Texas representatives voted against the stimulus bill. Kay Bailey Hutchison even describes her opposition to the stimulus bill as vehement in her current governer campaign ads.


    Billions of dollars in federal economic stimulus money let lawmakers traipse past tough decisions.
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    Stimulus money "allowed us to buy time and to push the problem a little farther out," said Craymer [Dale, chief economist for the business-backed Texas Taxpayers and Research Association] , who served as budget chief for the late Gov. Ann Richards. "Next session, we're going to have severe challenges."

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    This year, Washington has really beefed up its share. The Senate budget proposal has the feds kicking in about $13 billion more than they did for Texas' previous two-year budget, the one that will wrap up in September.

    That includes stimulus money. Lots of it. The Senate budget contains a long list of items the feds will finance through President Obama's stimulus package. In several cases, that money will take the place of state money.

    Editorial: Texas should invest from Rainy Day Fund | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Opinion: Editorials
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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Calling it a 'budget surplus' is kinda misleading. It's a rainy day fund established in 1988 for special emergencies with natural gas and oil tax revenues being the main source of funding.

    Yeah, there's money there but it's not available for general use, not that it hasn't been immune from lack of legislators trying to get at it - think raiding of SS funds from the Federal general budget. The good thing - it requires a three-fifths vote to transfer money away from the fund.

    Texas does have budget problems, like everyone else, but they're getting by with a little help from their friends, even though most of Texas representatives voted against the stimulus bill. Kay Bailey Hutchison even describes her opposition to the stimulus bill as vehement in her current governer campaign ads.
    The fact is that Texas does not having funding problems. We have plenty of natural resources, plenty of gas and oil; plenty of windpower. We don't need the other 49 states to be self-sufficient and are not land locked. I resent greatly having the likes of Nancy Pelosi telling me how to live my life. As far as I am concerned she needs to take a long walk off a short pier. Her and the rest of those political prostitutes taking bribes to extend the reach of the federal government to rule our very lives. We will have to fill out a form to go to the backroom before long. In triplicate.
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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Well, since Mexico has taken over much of the manufacturing jobs from Michigan and New York and Texas benefits the most from free trade to Mexico, it's no wonder that Texas is able to build up a surplus from sweat shop labor at the expense of the rest of the country. California's economy has just been mismanaged and they have to deal with their illegal immigration problem.

    However, I still don't see where that gives Texas the right to nullify federal laws. Everything you've mentioned is based on what the state governments have done - not the federal government.
    My point is Texas is a business friendly red state. Corporations are moving to Texas. We are also a right to work state. We are in the middle of a recession and doing allright while the socialist blue states are suffer. Texas is running a budget surplus and we do not have a state income tax.
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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Hello, their are Liberals here in Texas... We aren't going to succeed.



    Last time I check, Bush Jr was the one that threw our constitution out the window. Were the hell have you been the last eight freaking years?
    Of course, you won't succeed. Texas is a Conservative state.

    Actually, I know what you meant, but I just couldn't resist busting your chops a little over spelling.
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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Of course, you won't succeed. Texas is a Conservative state.

    Actually, I know what you meant, but I just couldn't resist busting your chops a little over spelling.
    Lulz My spelling sucks, and I don't mine that you point it out to me.
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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    My point is Texas is a business friendly red state. Corporations are moving to Texas. We are also a right to work state. We are in the middle of a recession and doing allright while the socialist blue states are suffer. Texas is running a budget surplus and we do not have a state income tax.
    Along these lines, the proof is to be found in the "pudding." The numbers don't lie.

    Texas Population Grew Most in 2008-09, Census Says (Update1) - BusinessWeek

    National Journal Online - Census Data Shows 11 House Seats Could Shift
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