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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    My point was that of course the Supreme Court isn't infallible but I think it's an error to believe that the individual states would be a better check on constitutionality.



    Actually, there is evidence that state governments are MORE corrupt than the federal government is. This is because the federal government is watched over by everyone else, as their decisions affect the entire country. However, state politics only affect their state, and so people don't pay as much attention to state governments.

    And while the federal government isn't as intimate or in tune with he wants of state and local populations, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. It allows the federal government to provide for all Americans despite local prejudices. This why Satanists are free to practice their religion, atheists are free to have nothing to do with religion, and interracial relationships and marriages are allowed to occur despite local and regional taboos against those things. The federal government is above all that.
    You see this is what liberals don't understand. The federal govt isn't supposed to PROVIDE anything to the people. It is supposed to protect the people liberties.
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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You see this is what liberals don't understand. The federal govt isn't supposed to PROVIDE anything to the people. It is supposed to protect the people liberties.
    Fine. The federal government is supposed to protect American's liberties from the state governments. I stand corrected.

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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You see this is what liberals don't understand. The federal govt isn't supposed to PROVIDE anything to the people. It is supposed to protect the people liberties.
    ..and 98% of the scum in Washington cant figure out how to do that either.
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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Here is something to ponder. The rest of the states are broke and Texas is running a budget surplus that exceeded 8 billion dollors in 2008. The 2009 -2010 budget will be tighter however the state will still have a surplus. While Blue states such as California, Michigan, and New York are beyond broke.
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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Here is something to ponder. The rest of the states are broke and Texas is running a budget surplus that exceeded 8 billion dollors in 2008. The 2009 -2010 budget will be tighter however the state will still have a surplus. While Blue states such as California, Michigan, and New York are beyond broke.
    Well, since Mexico has taken over much of the manufacturing jobs from Michigan and New York and Texas benefits the most from free trade to Mexico, it's no wonder that Texas is able to build up a surplus from sweat shop labor at the expense of the rest of the country. California's economy has just been mismanaged and they have to deal with their illegal immigration problem.

    However, I still don't see where that gives Texas the right to nullify federal laws. Everything you've mentioned is based on what the state governments have done - not the federal government.

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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Well, since Mexico has taken over much of the manufacturing jobs from Michigan and New York and Texas benefits the most from free trade to Mexico, it's no wonder that Texas is able to build up a surplus from sweat shop labor at the expense of the rest of the country. California's economy has just been mismanaged and they have to deal with their illegal immigration problem.

    However, I still don't see where that gives Texas the right to nullify federal laws. Everything you've mentioned is based on what the state governments have done - not the federal government.
    I guess one could say that Article I. Sec. 10 infers that the States may not secede, by virtue of the fact that they aren't allowed to do "Nation stuff" . But then again if they secede, they don't have to abide by the U.S. Constitution....

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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So as soon as we get a Democrat as President, the South is allowed to argue secession?

    Can the East Coast and West Coast do that when we get a Republican in as President next time?
    As far as I am concerned. It would be addition by subtraction. Go for it. But I would settle for only California as it's eviction would go a long way to clean up the corruption in Washington. It wields entirely too much liberal lockstep power that it totally distorts the political process. California is a metastasizing cancer on the rest of the nation in my view. It was stolen from Mexico anyway, so let's give it back to them. They would be perfect for one another. Totally corrupt; both of them.

    If Texas left, we would undoubtedly get many other states to join us such as Oklahoma, for example. Wyoming, Idaho, Nebraska, North and South Dakota all would want out of the dysfunctional U.S. controlled by the corrupt Democrats. I'm sure a good many others would want out as well. We have a shoreline for access to trade so we are not landlocked. It's going to happen sooner or later anyway because we have entirely too much division today. We will inevitably have a second "Civil War" if necessary but this one will be just in order to defend the Constitution; not a corrupt society based on slavery. The "slavers" today are primarily centered in the U.S. Congress and White House.
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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    As far as I am concerned. It would be addition by subtraction. Go for it. But I would settle for only California as it's eviction would go a long way to clean up the corruption in Washington. It wields entirely too much liberal lockstep power that it totally distorts the political process. California is a metastasizing cancer on the rest of the nation in my view. It was stolen from Mexico anyway, so let's give it back to them. They would be perfect for one another. Totally corrupt; both of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    If Texas left, we would undoubtedly get many other states to join us such as Oklahoma, for example. Wyoming, Idaho, Nebraska, North and South Dakota all would want out of the dysfunctional U.S. controlled by the corrupt Democrats.
    Yeah, good luck with those states operating without any federal funding. Texas won't have that high of a budget surplus when it has to prop up all those states.

    Quote Originally Posted by Missouri Mule View Post
    I'm sure a good many others would want out as well. We have a shoreline for access to trade so we are not landlocked. It's going to happen sooner or later anyway because we have entirely too much division today. We will inevitably have a second "Civil War" if necessary but this one will be just in order to defend the Constitution; not a corrupt society based on slavery. The "slavers" today are primarily centered in the U.S. Congress and White House.
    Yeah, because collective bargaining, child labor laws, work safety laws, 40-hour work weeks, and minimum wages are sure signs of a country using slave labor.

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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Texas will probably look like pre-1989 Berlin if it succeeds from the Union. They'll have a border fence around the whole state to keep Mexicans and "Yankees" out. They will probably also stop people from leaving the state to keep there economy from collapsing.

    Don't forget you'll look like racists too since you succeeded while a black guy was president

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    Re: Nullification for Texas? Will it work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    Don't forget you'll look like racists too since you succeeded while a black guy was president
    What does success have to do with a black President?

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