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    Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    I was surprised to find no mention here of last night's astounding Republican political ****ery, when the GOP eagerly played Russian Roulette with our troops.

    (If my search was faulty and there is a similar thread, my apologies; mods feel free to merge...)

    Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

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    A bill to continue funding troops in Iraq and Afghanistan might not sound controversial, but Senate Republicans did their best to block it this morning. Thirty-three of them voted to filibuster the legislation--just seven votes short. The only Republicans to join Dems approving the bill were Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas, and Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine. So why would Republicans--who spent years reproving Democrats for insufficiently supporting the troops -- vote to cut off their funding? (House Republicans, meanwhile, voted overwhelmingly to support the funding measure.) Observers think it's a tactic designed to stall the health care vote. For their part, liberals are incensed, while conservative writers are conspicuously silent.

    * Becoming 'Party of No' a Risky Strategy NBC News asks of the GOP, "Can you govern if you're unwilling to play ball? [...] Aren't they handing Obama the 'obstructionist' message that benefited Bush and Clinton in their first terms?" They ask, "How many times can you say 'no'?" Given how many GOP-friendly concessions have been made in health care, "It may be that the politics of this and the bitterness that's descended inside the Senate prevent anyone from crossing party lines. But do Republicans risk looking totally like obstructionists if some of their bigger concerns about the bill are gone?" Chuck Todd adds, "Senate GOP rolled dice big time with the attempt to filibuster the troop funding bill as a way to delay [health care] action."

    * GOP Hands Dems Major Symbolic Victory Salon's Thomas Schaller writes, "Why do Republicans hate our troops? If the shoe were on other foot, you know GOPers would be asking the same of Democrats." He advises, "Not only does this go against all of the soft-on-defense attacks the GOP has launched against Democrats since, oh, 1968. But some Republicans openly admit they are doing it. If President Obama and Senate Democrats cannot turn this into a holy **** storm of criticism, there's something wrong with them."

    * Republicans End Troop-Loving Charade Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas shakes his head. "At least Republicans don't have to pretend to give a **** about our troops anymore. That must be a relief for them. Let's tally it up: GOP sends troops to die in optional war, then vows to filibuster funding for them. Yup. Definitely looks like hate."

    * Obstruction at Any Cost Talking Points Memo's Brian Beutler is appalled. "Republicans are upping the obstruction--and they're playing chicken with U.S. troops to do so," he writes. "For their part, Republicans aren't exactly being coy about what their play is. 'We're doing everything we can to stop this bill,' [Minority Leader Sen. Mitch] McConnell spokesman Don Stewart told reporters this afternoon."

    * Why Obama Needs Democratic Unity The American Prospect's Tim Fernholz notes, "This is why, despite the higher support for the War in Afghanistan among Republicans, the president can't really rely on their help in Congress if his own party continues its intransigence on the subject -- the GOP will drop any principle, including their support for escalation in Afghanistan, to score meager political points or delay the passage of the majority agenda."

    * Political Game With Troops Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill hits back, "Hard to believe. Funding runs out tomorrow. A political game with the troops?"

    Given how outraged the right was that President Obama "dithered" on his decision to send more troops to Afghanistan, and that *gasp!* ONOES!! AMERICANS ARE DYING WHILE OBAMA DELAYS!!!, I can't wait to hear how conservatives/Republicans spin this load of hypocritical horse****.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    I'm quite sure there is more to the story, riders added to the bill so it's not about Troop Funding but something else, but you won't admit that, ever.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm quite sure there is more to the story, riders added to the bill so it's not about Troop Funding but something else, but you won't admit that, ever.
    If you believe this to be so, why don't you provide some evidence for us?

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Politics as we have it needs serious reform. Perhaps even the elimination of parties altogether as a force.


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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    If you believe this to be so, why don't you provide some evidence for us?
    Why bother with you? You won't read it, you'll attack the source and claim it means nothing. I posted for the benefit of other posters that might start to believe your hype, give them pause to consider that what you posted and your assessment isn't the only possibility.

    I have very little use in trying to convince you that you're wrong.

    However, this wasn't "Just a Troop Funding Bill" AND it was a stalling move to delay the Dem's disastrous Healthcare bill.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Politics as we have it needs serious reform. Perhaps even the elimination of parties altogether as a force.
    It's not the Parties, it's the idiots that vote.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's not the Parties, it's the idiots that vote.
    Really? Can you name me an election where this can be seen?

    I know Bush aint exactly Madison, but Al Gore is not exactly Jefferson.

    You see when your choices are between **** and Manure, is it really a choice at all?


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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Really? Can you name me an election where this can be seen?

    I know Bush aint exactly Madison, but Al Gore is not exactly Jefferson.

    You see when your choices are between **** and Manure, is it really a choice at all?
    Are you really that dense?

    Why did we have "those two choices"? Because the PEOPLE don't demand better. You really think the parties would be the way they are if the voters were more active, involved and educated?

    Stop hating the players, hate the game.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Why bother with you? You won't read it, you'll attack the source and claim it means nothing. I posted for the benefit of other posters that might start to believe your hype, give them pause to consider that what you posted and your assessment isn't the only possibility.


    So, you have nothing. Should I be surprised?

    Beyond this, if the only reason you posted in this thread was to inform others of how misleading and/or incorrect the article is, why run away from explaining to your uninformed friends exactly what is misleading and/or incorrect?

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Are you really that dense?

    Why did we have "those two choices"? Because the PEOPLE don't demand better. You really think the parties would be the way they are if the voters were more active, involved and educated?

    Stop hating the players, hate the game.
    No need to start insults.

    In any case, its like blaming the rape victim for wearing a short skirt. Yes the people need to raise their voices and get into politics more actively, but the system is setup to suppress this type of behavior. So calling the voters stupid isnt really solving the issue now is it?


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