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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    While I'm not accusing the Republicans of doing a good job in regard to health care, the Democrats voted for both of those wars, and I don't know what spending bills you refer to but I wouldn't be surprised if Democrats voted for those too.
    So I shouldn't support the Democrats now for trying to do a good job in health care because some voted for the wars and the no-contract bids? That doesn't justify me allowing the Republicans to continue doing a bad job with regards to health care along with continuing to provide no-contract bids and starting a war we had no need to start.

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    Whereas the Democratic politicians are selfless, and always think of their constituents?
    I am not so naive that I believe that the Democratic Party are without their faults. However, their efforts in trying to provide me with affordable health care exceed those of the Republican party.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

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    Of course politicians play politics. This particular thread happens to highlight just how hard the right "plays."

    Furthermore, I'm also pointing out a situation where our rightwing "OMG! OUR TROOPS ARE DYING WHILE OBAMA DITHERS!!" shouters have nothing to say about their own party's dithering.

    Hello!? Where are all you shouters now?

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    You all know as well as I do, if this was the Dems voting against military funding to dick around with some other completely unrelated legislation, there'd be a ****storm of threads about it.

    Comon Glinda you really shouldn't have me in that mix.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

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    Comon Glinda you really shouldn't have me in that mix.
    That's what happens when you sit on the fence. You can't have it both ways buddy.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So I shouldn't support the Democrats now for trying to do a good job in health care because some voted for the wars and the no-contract bids? That doesn't justify me allowing the Republicans to continue doing a bad job with regards to health care along with continuing to provide no-contract bids and starting a war we had no need to start.



    I am not so naive that I believe that the Democratic Party are without their faults. However, their efforts in trying to provide me with affordable health care exceed those of the Republican party.
    What is a no-contract bid? Do you even have the slightest clue about govt contracting? I do, so be careful how you answer.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Well, the healthcare bill has passed - so that isn't really viable as a tactic, now.

    What is still on the table is the possition of those supporting it, funding it, and leading it.

    What i see is that they just aren't willing to support a liberal leading a war - a liberal leader who doesn't know the first thing about warfar, fighting tactics and who doesn't have experience in this area worth a ****.

    I agree with them - but I have developed more personal views on the war and so on in recent years.

    I think the real issue and ocmplaint should be that the only true control over war-efforts that Congress has is the power to cut funding and tighten up the purse strings.
    That's it.

    A war can go on without their support, without their input, without their sayso - the Constitution only gives them control over money. PERIOD.

    So, when they use their only vice - I think it's ridiculous to hold it against them. It's the ONLY thing they can do.

    And I think people are being stupid, foolish and obviously unaware of military-issues when they believe that this particular funding/underfunding issue will severely curtail military-success.

    Money a win does not make in warfare - sure, it might help a bit - but I never consider this issue a question of faithfulness or concern for the troops.


    Trying to make something out of this is pointless - both sides have changed their views and what they feel is important. The liberals were against the war in Iraq because it was lead by a Republican and now the flip flops have been put on - the liberals will support their liberal leader and the conservatives will not.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    I generally trust Republicans to know what is needed wrt troop funding more than Dems, frankly. In the 20+ yrs my husband has been active duty he's been taken care of better by the "hawks" than by the "doves".
    This should come as a shock to no one.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Let's do this, If anyone knows the number of this bill, please post it and we'll go to Thomas.gov and read it for ourselves. Sorry if I missed it but in the article I did not see the number or official name of the bill...

    When journalists do a story about congressional votes, they should always cite the name of the bill.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    OMG!!

    I resist the temptation to ask to to take off your special hat and instead ask: Did you even take a glance at the bill? How embarrassing for you!

    OVER HALF of the spending is socialist spending and outright pork! LESS than half is actually war funding.. typical socialist gamesmanship.. and YOU bought it!...

    The premise of this thread is indicative of liberal ignorance of socialist policies!

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by ConservaBill View Post
    OMG!!

    I resist the temptation to ask to to take off your special hat and instead ask: Did you even take a glance at the bill? How embarrassing for you!

    OVER HALF of the spending is socialist spending and outright pork! LESS than half is actually war funding.. typical socialist gamesmanship.. and YOU bought it!...

    The premise of this thread is indicative of liberal ignorance of socialist policies!

    And of course you have read the bill, before posting your opinion on (socialist spending).
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    ConservaBill, You better link me to that bill before I report you to Obama's disinformation Czar.

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