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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    The Democrats have 60% of both the House and the Senate right now, plus the Presidency (and hence, veto power). How the hell are Republicans supposed to get anything of their own accomplished under those circumstances?
    If the Republicans had so many good ideas for healthcare reform, then why didn't they push them forward when they had control of the House, Senate, and the Presidency during the Bush years? They could have passed laws for insurance co-ops and allowed insurance companies to operate nationally and everything else they're proposing as alternatives to the Democrats' public option. But they didn't. You want to know why? Because they were too busy waging wars and passing spending bills that funneled taxpayer dollars into corporations they owned through no-bid contracts to think about that.

    So until Republican politicians stop thinking of themselves and start thinking of their constituents they don't deserve control of the House, the Senate, or the Presidency. Once they've learned their lesson, then maybe I'll vote for one.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I said that both parties play politics.
    Of course politicians play politics. This particular thread happens to highlight just how hard the right "plays."

    Furthermore, I'm also pointing out a situation where our rightwing "OMG! OUR TROOPS ARE DYING WHILE OBAMA DITHERS!!" shouters have nothing to say about their own party's dithering.

    Hello!? Where are all you shouters now?

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    You all know as well as I do, if this was the Dems voting against military funding to dick around with some other completely unrelated legislation, there'd be a ****storm of threads about it.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    If you believe this to be so, why don't you provide some evidence for us?
    I don't have to prove to you the MO of the right. They are pro-military all the time without much question. So I think when you have found an exception to the rule, the ball is in your court.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Of course politicians play politics. This particular thread happens to highlight just how hard the right "plays."

    Furthermore, I'm also pointing out a situation where our rightwing "OMG! OUR TROOPS ARE DYING WHILE OBAMA DITHERS!!" shouters have nothing to say about their own party's dithering.

    Hello!? Where are all you shouters now?

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    You all know as well as I do, if this was the Dems voting against military funding to dick around with some other completely unrelated legislation, there'd be a ****storm of threads about it.
    And the MO of the left is usually what? I voted for it before I voted against it? Right, unless the contracts are in my state? The left is not generally pro-military.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Your poll does not show this. It shows opposition to something that does not actually exist, which is a cohesive, single plan.
    It's pretty clear what's in the bill right now.

    Every one is susceptible to disinformation.
    Hence the qualifier, "too".

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    If the Republicans had so many good ideas for healthcare reform, then why didn't they push them forward when they had control of the House, Senate, and the Presidency during the Bush years? They could have passed laws for insurance co-ops and allowed insurance companies to operate nationally and everything else they're proposing as alternatives to the Democrats' public option. But they didn't. You want to know why? Because they were too busy waging wars and passing spending bills that funneled taxpayer dollars into corporations they owned through no-bid contracts to think about that.
    While I'm not accusing the Republicans of doing a good job in regard to health care, the Democrats voted for both of those wars, and I don't know what spending bills you refer to but I wouldn't be surprised if Democrats voted for those too.

    So until Republican politicians stop thinking of themselves and start thinking of their constituents they don't deserve control of the House, the Senate, or the Presidency. Once they've learned their lesson, then maybe I'll vote for one.
    Whereas the Democratic politicians are selfless, and always think of their constituents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Of course politicians play politics. This particular thread happens to highlight just how hard the right "plays."
    The right hasn't been playing any harder in trying to stop the health care bill than the left has been playing to try to pass it.

    Furthermore, I'm also pointing out a situation where our rightwing "OMG! OUR TROOPS ARE DYING WHILE OBAMA DITHERS!!" shouters have nothing to say about their own party's dithering.
    What "dithering"? They made a decision pretty quickly, and while they tried to delay passage some insignificant amount of time, they didn't try to delay implementation. And they knew that they would never succeed anyways. This was a political ploy, not "dithering".

    Hello!? Where are all you shouters now?

    Rev? Scarecrow? Arch Enemy? ptif219? Agent Ferris? donc? Zimmer? American? apdst? Crunch? DeeJayH? Gibberish? LaMidRighter? EpicDude86? (and so on)

    You all know as well as I do, if this was the Dems voting against military funding to dick around with some other completely unrelated legislation, there'd be a ****storm of threads about it.
    And those threads would be full of people pointing out some people's inconsistency.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    It's pretty clear what's in the bill right now.
    Which? One has a public option, one does not. That alone is a significant difference.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Which? One has a public option, one does not. That alone is a significant difference.
    The Senate one. That is what is being debated right now. People have mostly forgotten about the House bill.

    Again, if you want to see the wording that each poll uses, look at the bottom of the Pollster page I linked to.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I'm sure there's a good reason. Besides, this "Republican's Oppose Troop Funding" propaganda, regardless of their reasons, sounds like a play right of the GOP handbook. When a dem has an objection such as this, for whatever their reasons, that's the GOP typical battle cry. "The dems don't support our troops." Wah, wah, wah....

    I hate it when the right does that. Kinda hate to see the left stooping that low too. Whatever. Smart people usually see right through it.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    The Senate one. That is what is being debated right now. People have mostly forgotten about the House bill.

    Again, if you want to see the wording that each poll uses, look at the bottom of the Pollster page I linked to.
    Which pretty much proves my point. Sorry, but the polling on this issue is pretty much meaningless.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

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    WAH!!!

    Dammit! I feel like Patrick Swayze when he has his hands around Demi Moore's hands as she molds her pottery. Such love I have to give but you guys treat me like a ghost. What? No rebuttal? No one calling me a libbo tree-huggin', homo lover? Nobody screaming at me that I'm some redneck, retro hippy wingnut that needs to shut up and read my newspaper?

    Holy sh!!. MUST be Christmas. (At first I thought it was my deodorant or lack thereof.)

    Oh yes. Please notice I DID say Merry Christmas. Gotta problem wit' dat?

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