B. Republican leaders have specifically stated the reason they voted against funding the troops was to delay work on healthcare reform legislation.
...Did I ever deny that? What the hell does that have to do with the quote you are responding to here? I said that both parties play politics. The Republicans are one of those two parties, in case you forgot.Senate Republicans have stated publicly that they voted against funding the military defense appropriations in order to stall work on the healthcare reform bill.
This has nothing to do with what I was saying.No, it's not a moot point. The majority of American voters want a public option. They oppose the current Senate bill BECAUSE it has no public option or lowering of the eligibility age for Medicare.
You claimed that the Republicans' efforts to obstruct the current bill is going against the public will. In fact, the public will is against the current bill. Whether or not the public would have supported a different bill has nothing to do with the fact that you were wrong.
Sorry, I was wrong. It represents the view of 11 crazies.1. The GOP purity test hasn't even been voted on by the party. The committee will debate the proposal at its winter meeting in January.
2. The chief sponsor of the proposal is Republican National Committeeman James Bopp. The proposed resolution was signed by ten Republican National Committee members (there are approximately 165 members in total) and supported by Republican National Committee Chair Michael Steele. That's 11 out of 165, Daviepoo. Nearly 7%!
But wow, 7% is a big number .
Did they ever do one specific thing that requires a set of very specific conditions? No. But they play politics just like Republicans do, because they are politicians.When Republicans owned the White House and both houses of Congress, it didn't stop the Democrats from trying to do the public's business, did it? I don't recall... Did those Dems ever try to stop military funding as a way to stall some other legislation they didn't particularly like?
If you actually knew me you would know that they are not "typical" at all, and that I only use them on people who really deserve them.Personal insults. Typical.
Pollster.com: Health Care Plan: Favor / Oppose
From here it can be seen that as soon as actual bills became proposed, the public started leaning against them. Note that voters are more likely to be against the plans than all adults. The wording of each poll is at the bottom of the page if you're interested.
Because it's a moot point. If people are too dumb to form their own opinions, Democracy isn't a good idea anyways.This also does not address my point about the misinformation.
Now what I said. I said disinformation, not stupidity. That is a large difference. Not every one has the time, ability and inclination that we have to spend the time researching this stuff.Because it's a moot point. If people are too dumb to form their own opinions, Democracy isn't a good idea anyways.
None of this changes what I originally said though, which is that the public is completely against the current Senate bill, and that Glinda was wrong to say otherwise.
Not sure what this changes. If people are too susceptible to disinformation to have an informed opinion, democracy still doesn't work.Now what I said. I said disinformation, not stupidity. That is a large difference. Not every one has the time, ability and inclination that we have to spend the time researching this stuff.
Senators OK defense budget bill, much left to 2010 - Yahoo! News
The defense bill, which contains $128 billion for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and a 3.4 percent pay raise for the military, enjoyed wide support. Just nine Republicans opposed pork barrel projects and some of the add-ons voted against the bill, as did anti-war Democrat Russ Feingold of Wisconsin.
The president has yet to request funds for his recently announced troop increase in Afghanistan, and there is no money in the bill for that.
So where is the rest of the money going?
Sooooo... Less autonomy for the hope of an independant Afghanistan and more moneys for imperialism. And Obama will close Guantanamo only if he gets 100 million bucks to play with?The defense measure would trim $900 million from the Pentagon's $7.5 billion budget to train Afghan security forces. It would use the money to buy about 1,400 additional mine-resistance vehicles suited for rugged conditions in Afghanistan. Lawmakers say the training program can't absorb that much money in the coming year, so they used it for other purposes.
The measure also caps an emotional debate over closing the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in Cuba. While it omits Obama's $100 million request to close the facility, it permits Guantanamo detainees to be transferred to the U.S. to stand trial.
Is society was made of coral our world would be floral.
Every one is susceptible to disinformation.Not sure what this changes. If people are too susceptible to disinformation to have an informed opinion, democracy still doesn't work.