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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Simple. They are the "Party of NO".

    No ideas...just no.
    The Democrats have 60% of both the House and the Senate right now, plus the Presidency (and hence, veto power). How the hell are Republicans supposed to get anything of their own accomplished under those circumstances? Voting "no" on all the crap the Democrats are putting forward is all they can do right now.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Simple. They are the "Party of NO".

    No ideas...just no.
    Yes, keep telling yourself that. The Dem's have the House, the Senate and the WH. The GOP cannot stop them. The only NO i the whores like Landraue (sp?) and Nelson demanding more pork for their votes.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    The republic senate is eager to fund our troops. It's no secret that this was a ploy to affect publicly funded health care. This was a political tactic. That's all.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    It's no secret that this was a ploy to affect publicly funded health care. This was a political tactic.
    EXACTLY. The Republicans are playing politics with the troops (Now where have I heard that accusation before?) in order to avoid doing what the majority of Americans want on the healthcare issue.

    Poll: Voters Reject Health Care Mandate Without Public Option, Medicare Buy-In

    A new poll suggests that voters are not pleased by the idea of health insurance mandates without a public option or a Medicare expansion.

    The recent poll commissioned by the PCCC found that one third of Democrats are less likely to vote in 2010 if the health care bill does not contain a public option.

    Conducted by Research 2000 for the Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC), the survey finds only 33 percent of likely voters favor a health care bill that does not include a public health insurance option and does not expand Medicare, but does require all Americans to get health insurance. Slightly more Democrats -- 37 percent -- favor the idea, while only 30 percent of Republicans and 31 percent of independents do.

    Meanwhile, if the public option and Medicare buy-in are added, 58 percent of people support the idea. The number of Republican supporters drops to 22 percent, but independent support rises to 57 percent and Democratic support to a whopping 88 percent.

    "This poll shows voters in full-blown revolt against the Senate bill," said PCCC co-founder Stephanie Taylor. "Only one-third of voters support mandates without a public option, while nearly two-thirds want the public option and Medicare expansion. This will be a disaster of epic proportions for Democrats in 2010 if it's not fixed -- fast."

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    EXACTLY. The Republicans are playing politics with the troops (Now where have I heard that accusation before?) in order to avoid doing what the majority of Americans want on the healthcare issue.
    How odd of you to ignore my post where I pointed out that the public option is a moot point. It's done, gone, that ship has sailed. What's being voted on now is the final bill, which most Americans are against. So you are entirely wrong, no matter what distortion tactics you use to cover that up.

    Actually it's odd that you ignored all of my posts in this thread, just so you could continue your partisan masturbation. Well, it's not so much odd or unexpected as it is shameful and hypocritical.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    How odd of you to ignore my post where I pointed out that the public option is a moot point. It's done, gone, that ship has sailed. What's being voted on now is the final bill, which most Americans are against. So you are entirely wrong, no matter what distortion tactics you use to cover that up.

    Actually it's odd that you ignored all of my posts in this thread, just so you could continue your partisan masturbation. Well, it's not so much odd or unexpected as it is shameful and hypocritical.
    Dav, the polling on healthcare has been all over the place, and you know this. The change of a single word in the wording of the question results in wide swings in results, consistently. If I remember right, "public option" gets support, "government run health care" not so much. Right now, I have no idea what most people really want, and with all the disinformation spread by those of both sides, I don't trust that what people want is based on a true understanding of the issues.

    Note that I say this as some one who has stated all along that I think a public option at this time is a bad idea, and as a liberal. I am not trying to make a point about health care, only about what I see as the invalidity of the polling on the topic.
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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    I'm sure there's a good reason. Besides, this "Republican's Oppose Troop Funding" propaganda, regardless of their reasons, sounds like a play right of the GOP handbook. When a dem has an objection such as this, for whatever their reasons, that's the GOP typical battle cry. "The dems don't support our troops." Wah, wah, wah....

    I hate it when the right does that. Kinda hate to see the left stooping that low too. Whatever. Smart people usually see right through it.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I see our right-leaning friends are avoiding this debate like the plague.



    Republicans have sealed their fate as The Party of NO. Their outright hypocrisy is sickening.



    First, a purity test that even Ronnie Reagan couldn't pass. Now, a perfect example of exactly how hypocritical and self-important our Republican leaders are.

    Upcoming congressional elections are going to be really interesting for these Republican Senators who voted against military funding...
    Hey Glinda I guess you misssed the part about two riders that the Democrats try to sneak onto the bill

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    [quote=Dav;1058431594]How odd of you to ignore my post where I pointed out that the public option is a moot point.[\quote]

    Awww. Are you feeling left out, Davie?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Actually it's odd that you ignored all of my posts in this thread
    Is there some rule here that I must respond to every pathetic attempt to pretend the right hasn't done something outrageously hypocritical (yet again)? Poor thing. Not getting enough attention at home, I wager.

    Fine. I'll play.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Both parties played politics here.
    Senate Republicans have stated publicly that they voted against funding the military defense appropriations in order to stall work on the healthcare reform bill.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    The public option is a moot point now; the fact is that as many as 60% of Americans oppose the current Senate bill.
    No, it's not a moot point. The majority of American voters want a public option. They oppose the current Senate bill BECAUSE it has no public option or lowering of the eligibility age for Medicare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    The "purity test" was never even close to being put into action and reflects nobody's views except those of the crazy who wrote it.
    1. The GOP purity test hasn't even been voted on by the party. The committee will debate the proposal at its winter meeting in January.

    2. The chief sponsor of the proposal is Republican National Committeeman James Bopp. The proposed resolution was signed by ten Republican National Committee members (there are approximately 165 members in total) and supported by Republican National Committee Chair Michael Steele. That's 11 out of 165, Daviepoo. Nearly 7%!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    The Democrats have 60% of both the House and the Senate right now, plus the Presidency (and hence, veto power). How the hell are Republicans supposed to get anything of their own accomplished under those circumstances? Voting "no" on all the crap the Democrats are putting forward is all they can do right now.
    When Republicans owned the White House and both houses of Congress, it didn't stop the Democrats from trying to do the public's business, did it? I don't recall... Did those Dems ever try to stop military funding as a way to stall some other legislation they didn't particularly like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Oh sorry, did I just interrupt your campaign-like slogan-spewing with thoughtful analysis? I apologize, you can go back to jerking off to pictures of Obama now.
    Personal insults. Typical.

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    Re: Why Did Senate Republicans Oppose Troop Funding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Hey Glinda I guess you misssed the part about two riders that the Democrats try to sneak onto the bill
    Why don't you tell us all about this attempt to "sneak" things into the bill, Scorp? Your posts are always so entertaining.

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