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    Re: President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are N

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Sources? Proof? eh?
    I think it's a joke to take us down memory lane. Remember the Bush fear mongering we suffered through for the last 8 years?

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    Re: President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are N

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    sounds like circular logic. Where is the market pressure that you will bring to bear? If you mean the government how is that market based?
    government will force people out of the insurance market; which will leave them paying out-of-pocket for 100% of medical expenses.

    if that's not market pressure, I don't know what is.

    Would someone tell me how adding demand ( 30 million more people insured) will lower costs?
    that's sort of the point. that "30 million people added" figure is a joke. sort of like the notion that a half-trillion cut to the one program most important to the one constituency most likely to vote will occur.

    The beauty of this bill is that it does not really go into effect in 2013. So we won't really know the consequences until after the 2012 elections. Probably a coincidence.
    oh i'm thinking we're going to see some of the effects of those taxes real soon certainly in time for 2012
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    Re: President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are N

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    I think it's a joke to take us down memory lane. Remember the Bush fear mongering we suffered through for the last 8 years?
    Is it or is it not OK for a President to 'fearmonger'?

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    Re: President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are N

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    I think it's a joke to take us down memory lane. Remember the Bush fear mongering we suffered through for the last 8 years?
    You mean referencing those planes flying into building on 911?
    Or Iranians chanting Death to the USA?
    Idiots trying to light bomb/shoes?
    A segment of society that thinks cartoons are evil but beheadings not?
    Pym Fortun and Theo van Gogh murdered my radical Islamists?
    Or Saddam trying to assassinate a former president?
    Or the bombings in London, Madrid, Tunesia, Turkey (all post 911)... or the scores of attempts we do not know about?
    The beheadings of civilians?


    Yeah... that's fear mongering.
    Geez... I guess we shouldn't take the wacko's seriously.


    May I suggest you take a beach vacation in Iraq or Iran. Wear an American flag t-shirt and bath towel... please.

    But healthcare... 7% of our economy in government control... yeah... we need that... like a hole in the head... especially considering how well it has worked in Europe and Kanuckistan.

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    Re: President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are N

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Is it or is it not OK for a President to 'fearmonger'?
    Fear mongering is not OK, but Obama and Bush seem to think it is/was.

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    Re: President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are N

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    Leftwingers calling the right fearmongers? Look at what this son of a bitch is doing?
    The President and his team obviously have no clue how to cure runaway costs. But then, adequate answers are rare from any direction. Even competition has its limits.

    If we seriously want to control costs, then we all need to accept that some level of restriction of care needs to be practiced, whether by government or private insurers. We individuals need to accept that we can't expect society to be responsible to keep us living at all costs.

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    Re: President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are N

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Wrong. The Laffer curve is based on the marginal propensity to work, not tax cuts. At certain, theoretical locations on the curve, more people will work then at higher points. Assuming that the income is taxable, moving from a higher position to a substantially lower position will result in theory, in more tax revenue. While reduction in tax rates are a vital part of the curve, it is not the basis of it.
    True, but in relation to Reaganomics it was based on cutting taxes to increase revenues.
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