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    "Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

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    Re: U.S. National Debt Tops Debt Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    "Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

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    Re: U.S. National Debt Tops Debt Limit

    Funny how there was no outcry by conservatives when Bush was in office and he spent along with his Republican congress, like a drunken sailor.

    Funny how there was no outcry by conservatives when it was them that were "uping" the debt limit 4 times from 2001 to 2006 and 7 times in total under Bush.

    Funny how there was no outcry by conservatives when the US national debt went up 100% in the 8 years of the Bush administration.

    Funny how conservatives have no solutions to the problems they at least in a big part caused... yes doing the tired old "tax cuts" bit is not a solution if you keep spending increases.. we knew that before Bush and that was yet again confirmed under Bush.

    If you listen to conservatives, you could cure cancer by cutting taxes..
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    Re: U.S. National Debt Tops Debt Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Funny how there was no outcry by conservatives when Bush was in office and he spent along with his Republican congress, like a drunken sailor.

    Funny how there was no outcry by conservatives when it was them that were "uping" the debt limit 4 times from 2001 to 2006 and 7 times in total under Bush.

    Funny how there was no outcry by conservatives when the US national debt went up 100% in the 8 years of the Bush administration.

    Funny how conservatives have no solutions to the problems they at least in a big part caused... yes doing the tired old "tax cuts" bit is not a solution if you keep spending increases.. we knew that before Bush and that was yet again confirmed under Bush.

    If you listen to conservatives, you could cure cancer by cutting taxes..
    Oh how ironic.

    "2006 Obama: "Raising the debt ceiling (Bush) shows a failure of leadership," 2009 Obama: We need to raise the debt ceiling"

    Guess Obama is showing a "failure of leadership".

    Its also funny how liberals moaned and complained when the debt ceiling was raised during the Bush administration but expects people to not moan and complain under Obama's administration for the same thing.
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    Re: U.S. National Debt Tops Debt Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Oh how ironic.

    "2006 Obama: "Raising the debt ceiling (Bush) shows a failure of leadership," 2009 Obama: We need to raise the debt ceiling"

    Guess Obama is showing a "failure of leadership".

    Its also funny how liberals moaned and complained when the debt ceiling was raised during the Bush administration but expects people to not moan and complain under Obama's administration for the same thing.
    Dont get me wrong.. I actually agree with you. While Obama is going the right way he has showed at times "failure of leadership". But in this case I dont see how Obama had any choice what so ever. Bush DID have a choice in all the 7 times he got the debt ceiling raised.

    But that does not change the fact that most conservatives today blame Obama for most if not all of the debt, and that is so factually wrong. They gloss over the fact that of the 12 trillion at least 5 if not 6 trillion came during Bush's watch with a Republican (conservative) run Congress. In there lies not only the irony but the hypocrisy as well.
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    Re: U.S. National Debt Tops Debt Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Funny how there was no outcry by conservatives when Bush was in office and he spent along with his Republican congress, like a drunken sailor.
    I don't know what world you were living in at the time, but conservatives were very pissed about the spending.

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    Re: U.S. National Debt Tops Debt Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I don't know what world you were living in at the time, but conservatives were very pissed about the spending.
    LOL...look at the join date beneath my name. I was here. Conservatives on this board (and in general) were not very pissed about the spending.

    Yes, if you look back you may find a few - very few - that expressed concern, but for the vast majority they were extremely apologetic.
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    Re: U.S. National Debt Tops Debt Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Funny how there was no outcry by conservatives when Bush was in office and he spent along with his Republican congress, like a drunken sailor.

    Funny how there was no outcry by conservatives when it was them that were "uping" the debt limit 4 times from 2001 to 2006 and 7 times in total under Bush.

    Funny how there was no outcry by conservatives when the US national debt went up 100% in the 8 years of the Bush administration.

    Funny how conservatives have no solutions to the problems they at least in a big part caused... yes doing the tired old "tax cuts" bit is not a solution if you keep spending increases.. we knew that before Bush and that was yet again confirmed under Bush.

    If you listen to conservatives, you could cure cancer by cutting taxes..
    There are no conservatives left in Washington. Once the Republicans gained power, the Contract with America and its proposed b alanced budget amendment went under the bed, not to be seen again until the Democrats were in power.

    When Republicans were running up the deficit, it was Democrats who decried it.

    When Democrats run up the deficit, it is Republicans who decry it.

    Pots are good at calling kettles black. Both parties are the party of big spending, big government, and fiscal irresponsibility. There are no conservatives left any more.

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    Re: U.S. National Debt Tops Debt Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    LOL...look at the join date beneath my name. I was here. Conservatives on this board (and in general) were not very pissed about the spending.

    Yes, if you look back you may find a few - very few - that expressed concern, but for the vast majority they were extremely apologetic.
    Let's use the search function and back up these claims, one way or another.


    Anyone willing to do some research, even just on this board, or are we all just going to spew claims until someone gives up or gets bored?

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    Re: U.S. National Debt Tops Debt Limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Might be possible if.....



    We were not in a recession. Combined with a democratic majority better keep dreaming.



    Nothing is better than something? Nobody should have to go broke because they cannot afford health care. That is my opinion; how we achieve such a scenario is another topic in itself.



    Do you own stock/have a 401k derived in equities?



    The failure of major financial institutions creates systemic risk. A complete failure of the system cannot be risked. Ever....
    Just keep printing money, this is your only answer?

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