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    Re: LA Times: Obama stimulus spending: $246,436 per new job

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Totally rantish, without anything of substance.... Explain the Louisiana Purchase if you will/could!
    I gotta better idea, after 35 pages, how's about you explain how goverment can create wealth when it can only get it's money from the people. I would love to hear you educate me on that one!...
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    Re: LA Times: Obama stimulus spending: $246,436 per new job

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I gotta better idea, after 35 pages, how's about you explain how goverment can create wealth when it can only get it's money from the people. I would love to hear you educate me on that one!...
    Louisiana purchase! How about that?
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    Re: LA Times: Obama stimulus spending: $246,436 per new job

    Never mind....
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    Re: LA Times: Obama stimulus spending: $246,436 per new job

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I gotta better idea, after 35 pages, how's about you explain how goverment can create wealth when it can only get it's money from the people. I would love to hear you educate me on that one!...
    Define "wealth."

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    Re: LA Times: Obama stimulus spending: $246,436 per new job

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I gotta better idea, after 35 pages, how's about you explain how goverment can create wealth when it can only get it's money from the people. I would love to hear you educate me on that one!...
    Your premise is entirely flawed (as are most of yours). Government can create wealth in several different ways. A stock market is essentially a government operation, enacted, created and managed by the government. That alone create vast amounts of wealth. Did the government get money from its people? No. Was wealth created? Absolutely.

    Besides the Louisiana purchase, the Alaskan one comes to mind. Furthermore, government infrastructure can turn land that was normally of minimal value into high value property. We often see this when government contracts to put in a highway or mass transit. Land that was normally of little value suddenly goes for top dollar. McDonald's used to track government planning operations to see where new roads and highways would be built and bought land near off ramps and intersections because they knew the value of those locations would later explode.

    Across the pond, without the 100,000 year dikes in the Netherlands, there wouldn't be development, land values would plummet and wealth would cease to exist. Instead, we see at times rising land prices that are partially based on the dikes' ability to hold back the sea.

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    Re: LA Times: Obama stimulus spending: $246,436 per new job

    A local government uses taxpayer revenues to build a public park and the supporting infrastructure, and a result, the property values rise for all the surrounding homeowners. Did the government create wealth?

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3124457AAniX2j
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    Re: LA Times: Obama stimulus spending: $246,436 per new job

    The government creates opportunities for wealth all the time, but ultimately it's the people who create the wealth by taking advantage of those opportunities.

    .... examples. Create a bridge connecting two land masses to spur economic development. Connect a brackish water canal to a saltwater outlet, and you just created ocean front property. Put an exit ramp off an interstate to get people to visit a small town....

    It happens literally every day.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3124457AAniX2j

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    Re: LA Times: Obama stimulus spending: $246,436 per new job

    Well, if it's so easy for the government to create wealth, why hasn't it ever worked in the history ofthe modern world and what the hell's taking so long to get it started this time around? Why don't you geniuses educate us on those two items. Thanks in advance.

    oh yeah, where is the money going to come from?
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    Re: LA Times: Obama stimulus spending: $246,436 per new job

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, if it's so easy for the government to create wealth, why hasn't it ever worked in the history ofthe modern world and what the hell's taking so long to get it started this time around? Why don't you geniuses educate us on those two items. Thanks in advance.

    oh yeah, where is the money going to come from?
    Did you read the examples of it working? Your statement is factually wrong right from the start, and proven wrong already by the posts you are referring to.
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    Re: LA Times: Obama stimulus spending: $246,436 per new job

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did you read the examples of it working? Your statement is factually wrong right from the start, and proven wrong already by the posts you are referring to.
    Where's the money come form that the government uses to create the wealth??

    The only way for the government to stimulate th economy would be to subsidize every industry in the country. To do that, they would have to get large amounts of revenue and that revenue is going to come from fill in the blank
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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