Amanda Knox - Railroaded

When I first head about this case I learned everything I could about it from everything that I saw I thought that it was bullcrap that she was originally convicted. I'm glad that she was finally freed and aquitted.

TurtleDude said:

Uh how is that a LIE?

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In early October, she moved to a new country to study the language, sharing an apartment with another student, settling in and familiarising herself with her surroundings and the lecture timetables. On the first of November she was murdered. That's not a lot of time to do all that and squeeze in the intense caring relationship attested.

Manc Skipper said:

That's not a lot of time to do all that and squeeze in the intense caring relationship attested.

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Maybe not, but we don't know for sure. Maybe it's enough to develop some levels of feelings and "caring" for one another. You're just making an assumption that it was impossible.

Manc Skipper said:

In early October, she moved to a new country to study the language, sharing an apartment with another student, settling in and familiarising herself with her surroundings and the lecture timetables. On the first of November she was murdered. That's not a lot of time to do all that and squeeze in the intense caring relationship attested.

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yet she was involved in an INTIMATE relationship with some guy she had met a week before

sounds like she just made friends quickly

the fact is the dude from the Ivory Coast is the obvious killer


A Grand Jury sitting in the USA never would have indicted her for this crime

TurtleDude said:

yet she was involved in an INTIMATE relationship with some guy she had met a week before

sounds like she just made friends quickly

the fact is the dude from the Ivory Coast is the obvious killer


A Grand Jury sitting in the USA never would have indicted her for this crime

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I listened to to a full interview with Amanda Knoxs attorney...she was asked extensive questions and she absolutely impressed me as being realistic and truthful in her answers.....she didnt appear to be spinning or BSing...she was calm and answered the questions forthright without pausing to create an answer.
I am more convinced then ever that Amanda was railroaded by the prosecution...now would I bet my first born that she didnt kill that girl...NO!!!!
Im saying she did not deserve to be found guilty on what they presented as evidence.

Manc Skipper said:

In early October, she moved to a new country to study the language, sharing an apartment with another student, settling in and familiarising herself with her surroundings and the lecture timetables. On the first of November she was murdered. That's not a lot of time to do all that and squeeze in the intense caring relationship attested.

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There's a reason that the term "love at first sight" exists.

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lpast said:

Yeah I agree on the vendetta thing..but why..wtf is his problem with her...Im not getting this turtle...

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neither am i. and i'm not so sure she didn't have plenty do do with the girl's death.

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"Outside the courtroom in Perugia on Monday night, Italians booed and heckled, shouting “Give us Amanda!”, shaking their fists and threatening rough justice. A few paces away, a gaggle of airbrushed American television reporters excitedly broke the news to their audiences back home: “Amanda Knox is cleared of murder!”
Not since O J Simpson was tried for the murder of his wife Nicole has a court case gripped two continents in this way. Office staff in the US, where it was mid-afternoon, were allowed to stand by television sets and await the verdict from Perugia. But it was not only the cliff-hanger finale that drew everyone to this extraordinary courtroom drama.
Throughout, the case had ignited passions among those who saw this as a clash of cultures: the American legal system pitted against Italian justice; Italy’s conservative mores (soiled but not erased by prime minister Silvio Berlusconi’s antics) confronting the more liberal Anglo-Saxon mindset.
And at the centre of it was not the victim, Meredith Kercher, but the well-brought-up girl from Seattle who stood accused ... "

So who is the real Amanda Knox? - Telegraph

Rudy Guede remains convicted "with others" of the murder, but now there are no others, it seems. Who were the others in the house at the time?

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Manc Skipper said:

"Outside the courtroom in Perugia on Monday night, Italians booed and heckled, shouting “Give us Amanda!”, shaking their fists and threatening rough justice. A few paces away, a gaggle of airbrushed American television reporters excitedly broke the news to their audiences back home: “Amanda Knox is cleared of murder!”
Not since O J Simpson was tried for the murder of his wife Nicole has a court case gripped two continents in this way. Office staff in the US, where it was mid-afternoon, were allowed to stand by television sets and await the verdict from Perugia. But it was not only the cliff-hanger finale that drew everyone to this extraordinary courtroom drama.
Throughout, the case had ignited passions among those who saw this as a clash of cultures: the American legal system pitted against Italian justice; Italy’s conservative mores (soiled but not erased by prime minister Silvio Berlusconi’s antics) confronting the more liberal Anglo-Saxon mindset.
And at the centre of it was not the victim, Meredith Kercher, but the well-brought-up girl from Seattle who stood accused ... "

So who is the real Amanda Knox? - Telegraph

Rudy Guede remains convicted "with others" of the murder, but now there are no others, it seems. Who were the others in the house at the time?

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there is a reason why the kerchers still believe amanda knox participated in this awful murder.

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Manc Skipper said:

Rudy Guede remains convicted "with others" of the murder, but now there are no others, it seems. Who were the others in the house at the time?

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There is no evidence that anyone else was in the house besides Rudy Guede and Meredith Kercher.

liblady said:

there is a reason why the kerchers still believe amanda knox participated in this awful murder.

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Yeah, because that's what the prosecution told them for the past four years and because grieving parents want a sense of closure. Not a good enough reason. All the evidence points to Rudy Guede killing her, and no evidence points to Amanda Knox or Rafael Sollecito ever even meeting Guede, much less participating in the murder.

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liblady said:

there is a reason why the kerchers still believe amanda knox participated in this awful murder.

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What they believe is irrelevant. You don't convict people on "beliefs". The prosecution had nothing but outlandish theories, character assassination, sloppy forensic teams, dna "evidence" so corrupted it would have been thrown out by a kangaroo court, circumstantial evidence and a rabid tabloid media obsessed with the American defendant.

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Arcana XV said:

What they believe is irrelevant. You don't convict people on "beliefs". The prosecution had nothing but outlandish theories, character assassination, sloppy forensic teams, dna "evidence" so corrupted it would have been thrown out by a kangaroo court, circumstantial evidence and a rabid tabloid media obsessed with the American defendant.

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Thats pretty much how amandas lawyer put it in an interview I watched the other day...when she said that the police broke the window of the crime scene room and all piled in and trampled everything instead of going through the front door...my jaw dropped, if we did that here heads would have been rolling...

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Kandahar said:

There is no evidence that anyone else was in the house besides Rudy Guede and Meredith Kercher.



Yeah, because that's what the prosecution told them for the past four years and because grieving parents want a sense of closure. Not a good enough reason. All the evidence points to Rudy Guede killing her, and no evidence points to Amanda Knox or Rafael Sollecito ever even meeting Guede, much less participating in the murder.

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amanda knox threw an innocent man under the bus for the murder, and she lied to police. her boyfriend could not corroraborate her "alibi". the dna evidence was screwed up, so true, no dna evidence. that doesn't negate the fact that knox lied on more than occasion, and says she came home to find the door open and blood all over the place but did nothing but take a shower. while she's been found not guilty, i don't believe it. who does cartwheels in a police station? why did the police find NO fingerprints from knox in the house where she lived? not even in her own bedroom? (except one)?

she got off, fine. i just hope this isn't another joran vandersloot experience.

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I'm glad she's out, none of the evidence points to her, and in a country with a half decent legal system she would never have lost those 4 years of her life.

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Arcana XV said:

What they believe is irrelevant. You don't convict people on "beliefs". The prosecution had nothing but outlandish theories, character assassination, sloppy forensic teams, dna "evidence" so corrupted it would have been thrown out by a kangaroo court, circumstantial evidence and a rabid tabloid media obsessed with the American defendant.

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they also had her confession. while i think the work was sloppy and the evidence thin, i don't really believe she had nothing to do with it. too many lies and much odd behavior.

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liblady said:

amanda knox threw an innocent man under the bus for the murder,

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Already addressed. The POLICE made up that story and then force-fed it to her during an interrogation. After about 10 hours of high-pressure interrogation (during which she claims she was hit by a police officer), she told them what they wanted to hear. None of this was even disputed except for whether or not she was struck by a cop.

her boyfriend could not corroraborate her "alibi".

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Both Knox and Sollecito have stated that they were together at his apartment on the night of the murder, and there is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

the dna evidence was screwed up, so true, no dna evidence. that doesn't negate the fact that knox lied on more than occasion,

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Lying is not necessarily a sign of guilt.

and says she came home to find the door open and blood all over the place but did nothing but take a shower.

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False. She claimed she saw a bit of blood, but not enough to indicate foul play.

while she's been found not guilty, i don't believe it. who does cartwheels in a police station?

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Do murderers do cartwheels in the police station? Do you have some statistical evidence that suggests guilty people are more likely to do cartwheels in the police station than innocent people (or even a single example of a clearly guilty person doing this)? It sounds like you are trying to conflate "odd behavior" with "guilty behavior." The two are not the same.

why did the police find NO fingerprints from knox in the house where she lived? not even in her own bedroom? (except one)?

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As you already acknowledged, there was blood all over the crime scene. Both Meredith Kercher's and Rudy Guede's. Are you suggesting that Knox and Sollecito participated in the murder, then managed to clean up not only their blood, but every last fingerprint in the apartment...while leaving plenty of evidence to incriminate Guede? This is highly implausible, if not physically impossible.

she got off, fine. i just hope this isn't another joran vandersloot experience.

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This girl is innocent. And not just in an "insufficient evidence" way, but in a "she clearly didn't do it" way.

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liblady said:

amanda knox threw an innocent man under the bus for the murder, and she lied to police. her boyfriend could not corroraborate her "alibi". the dna evidence was screwed up, so true, no dna evidence. that doesn't negate the fact that knox lied on more than occasion, and says she came home to find the door open and blood all over the place but did nothing but take a shower. while she's been found not guilty, i don't believe it. who does cartwheels in a police station? why did the police find NO fingerprints from knox in the house where she lived? not even in her own bedroom? (except one)?

she got off, fine. i just hope this isn't another joran vandersloot experience.

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She was beyond tired and being told to say certain things or else they would have kept at it...cartwheels...just trying to unwind a bit, I would have been doing pushups probably...the police didn't find much of anything because they corrupted the crime scene and the forensics in that town are somewhat backward...give the girl a break, yu're just out for blood.

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liblady said:

too many lies and much odd behavior.

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Same with Casey Anthony, right? But lies and odd behavior does not make evidence.

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liblady said:

there is a reason why the kerchers still believe amanda knox participated in this awful murder.

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probably because they are stupid enough to believe that POS corrupt disgrace of a prosecutor who should be in jail himself or perhaps "sleepin with da fishes"

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liblady said:

amanda knox threw an innocent man under the bus for the murder, and she lied to police. her boyfriend could not corroraborate her "alibi". the dna evidence was screwed up, so true, no dna evidence. that doesn't negate the fact that knox lied on more than occasion, and says she came home to find the door open and blood all over the place but did nothing but take a shower. while she's been found not guilty, i don't believe it. who does cartwheels in a police station? why did the police find NO fingerprints from knox in the house where she lived? not even in her own bedroom? (except one)?

she got off, fine. i just hope this isn't another joran vandersloot experience.

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this looks to be a bad case of white guilt. The guy still in jail has a record, he had no reason to be in the house yet his DNA was in the crime scene

as to her answers after hours upon hours of being given the third degree without counsel-as I noted, give me a couple days with some 20 year old kid who doesn't speak English as a first language and no lawyer and I can almost guarantee they will confess to anything I want them to

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TurtleDude said:

this looks to be a bad case of white guilt. The guy still in jail has a record, he had no reason to be in the house yet his DNA was in the crime scene

as to her answers after hours upon hours of being given the third degree without counsel-as I noted, give me a couple days with some 20 year old kid who doesn't speak English as a first language and no lawyer and I can almost guarantee they will confess to anything I want them to

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I know it was just a typo, but to clarify for others... Knox spoke almost no Italian at the time she was interrogated by the police, and was not allowed to have a lawyer present. The police force-fed her a story about someone who had nothing to do with it, and basically brow-beat (along with physically hit, according to Knox) her into agreeing with the cops. As soon as she did, charges of "slander" were added to her arrest.

This was a disgrace for the Italian police and justice system... and they damned well know it, which is why they're trying to justify themselves after the fact.

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DiAnna said:

I know it was just a typo, but to clarify for others... Knox spoke almost no Italian at the time she was interrogated by the police, and was not allowed to have a lawyer present. The police force-fed her a story about someone who had nothing to do with it, and basically brow-beat (along with physically hit, according to Knox) her into agreeing with the cops. As soon as she did, charges of "slander" were added to her arrest.

This was a disgrace for the Italian police and justice system... and they damned well know it, which is why they're trying to justify themselves after the fact.

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IF cops pulled this crap in the USA, savage civil rights attorneys would strip the flesh off their bones and federal judges would burn what was left

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TurtleDude said:

IF cops pulled this crap in the USA, savage civil rights attorneys would strip the flesh off their bones and federal judges would burn what was left

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heh..that statement is an absolute

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lpast said:

heh..that statement is an absolute

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In reality, 99% of the cops in the USA wouldn't put up with the crap the Italian cops pulled.

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TurtleDude said:

In reality, 99% of the cops in the USA wouldn't put up with the crap the Italian cops pulled.

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Simply put we just dont operate like that here and we could never get away with it if we tried...even if they did it because she was american and not an italian...we DONT do that here either.....all roads lead right back to the good ole USA as the best of the best...no matter what our problems are...theres just no place better.."YET"