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    Re: Amanda Know - Railroaded

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that document is legally binding.
    It's international law and Italy is a member of the UN General Assembly.

    Italian criminal law would still take precedence.
    Of course, but it doesn't change the fact that they are violating international law.

    And even if it was, that's a very bland generic statement which leaves itself up to a lot of interpretation.
    Certainly, but I also think that most reasonable people (yourself included) would agree that her trial was anything but fair or impartial.

    Just because Italy's judicial system doesn't work like ours doesn't mean it isn't fair and impartial.
    I didn't say that.

    Like I said earlier, if you go live in a foreign country, you're subject to their laws and judicial system regardless of whether you think that system is fair or not. If you don't like that, don't go live there.
    1. I'm not disputing this.

    2. Italy presents itself as a modern nation. If they wish to be viewed as such then they should act accordingly.

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    Re: Amanda Know - Railroaded

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I'm not the most knowledgeable person on this subject, but it seems to me like everyone's looking at this wrongly. If the laws of the Italian justice system were followed and she was found guilty, then that's the end of the story.
    Except she's not guilty.

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon
    That's the risk she took by going to live in Italy. The fact that most people think she wouldn't have been found guilty by an American court is irrelevant. She wasn't in America.
    You don't think that innocent people have a right to not be unjustly imprisoned, no matter WHERE in the world they are?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon
    Now if the rules of their system weren't followed, then she should appeal within that system and hopefully be vindicated that way.
    I can't ****ing stand it when people are unwilling to condemn injustice simply because it happens in some other part of the world.
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    Re: Amanda Knox - Railroaded

    Funny thread.. Human rights?

    Okay I will bite.. if so, where was the US when it rail roaded those Mexican guys in Texas? Not only did it break human rights, but it also broke treaty after treaty it had signed all because they were latino... tsk tsk. And now because a all American white girl is convicted in another country then you all suddenly want to claim human rights and treaties? pathetic.

    And dont worry if her human rights were violated then there is a legal system within the EU to address this.
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    Re: Amanda Knox - Railroaded

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Funny thread.. Human rights?

    Okay I will bite.. if so, where was the US when it rail roaded those Mexican guys in Texas? Not only did it break human rights, but it also broke treaty after treaty it had signed all because they were latino... tsk tsk.
    Uhh if you expect anyone to know what you're talking about, you'll have to be a little more specific than "those Mexican guys in Texas." Mexican guys aren't exactly uncommon in Texas.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU
    And now because a all American white girl is convicted in another country then you all suddenly want to claim human rights and treaties? pathetic.
    You know what's pathetic? That you view this as a US-is-being-hypocritical issue, instead of actually looking at the evidence of the case and weighing Amanda Knox's guilt or innocence. I have no idea what Mexican guys you're talking about, but the fact that you view an innocent girl's incarceration for the next 26 years as a fair game tit-for-tat for American policies is ****ing disgusting.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU
    And dont worry if her human rights were violated then there is a legal system within the EU to address this.
    The EU has no authority to overturn an Italian criminal court's decision.
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    Re: Amanda Knox - Railroaded

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Funny thread.. Human rights?

    Okay I will bite.. if so, where was the US when it rail roaded those Mexican guys in Texas? Not only did it break human rights, but it also broke treaty after treaty it had signed all because they were latino... tsk tsk. And now because a all American white girl is convicted in another country then you all suddenly want to claim human rights and treaties? pathetic.

    And dont worry if her human rights were violated then there is a legal system within the EU to address this.
    Stop trolling the thread. Either comment on the case or piss off.

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    Re: Amanda Knox - Railroaded

    Since he mentioned Texas, let's imagine Foxy's trial happened there, and she was other than white. She'd have the needle in her arm by now.
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    Re: Amanda Knox - Railroaded

    The next person who tries to derail this thread will be reported.

    The topic is the Amanda Knox trial, not hypothetical situations involving her in Texas.

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    Re: Amanda Know - Railroaded

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Except she's not guilty.
    If you had information that would have proved her innocence, why didn't you fly to Italy to give testimony? Or are you just stating an opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You don't think that innocent people have a right to not be unjustly imprisoned, no matter WHERE in the world they are?

    I can't ****ing stand it when people are unwilling to condemn injustice simply because it happens in some other part of the world.
    Justice isn't an objective thing, it's subjective. I realize that you think she's innocent, but you need to realize that that's irrelevant. The Italian judicial system found her guilty, that's justice. The fact that it's not your version of justice means nothing. The only way that an injustice could have been done is if the Italian judicial system did not follow its own laws. As long as they followed their own laws and still found her guilty, then she's guilty and that's the end of the story.
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    Re: Amanda Know - Railroaded

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    If you had information that would have proved her innocence, why didn't you fly to Italy to give testimony? Or are you just stating an opinion?

    Justice isn't an objective thing, it's subjective. I realize that you think she's innocent, but you need to realize that that's irrelevant. The Italian judicial system found her guilty, that's justice.
    Sending an innocent person to jail is your idea of justice? That's strange.

    The fact that it's not your version of justice means nothing. The only way that an injustice could have been done is if the Italian judicial system did not follow its own laws. As long as they followed their own laws and still found her guilty, then she's guilty and that's the end of the story.
    Is it justice when Iran executes homosexuals for being gay?

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    Re: Amanda Know - Railroaded

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Sending an innocent person to jail is your idea of justice? That's strange.
    Again, if you had proof that she was innocent why didn't you fly to Italy and give testimony to that fact? I suspect though, that you're just stating your opinion, which as I already explained, is irrelevant.
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