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ptif219 said:
So you decide what is acceptable. Are you saying Christians lie or that they should not have freedom of speech.


More likely that is how you dodge the facts in the link.
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No. The article is suspect from the beginning because it comes from a moral bias rather than objectivity.

Still no attempt at addressing the questions posed, I see.
 
ptif219 said:
So you decide what is acceptable.
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Science has already done that, lying hypocrite.

ptif219 said:
Are you saying Christians lie
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Habitually, as your OP proves. ;) If they didn't lie, they couldn't be Christians since they would be forced to admit that science and reality has left their religious delusions behind.

ptif219 said:
or that they should not have freedom of speech.
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They have the freedom to spout deranged cultist nonsense (such as in the links you've provided), just as we have the freedom to debunk it with the facts.

ptif219 said:
More likely that is how you dodge the facts in the link.
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Those "facts" have been debunked here. Liar:

APA Help Center - Health & Emotional Wellness - "Sexual Orientation, Homosexuality and Bisexuality"
 
jallman said:
No. The article is suspect from the beginning because it comes from a moral bias rather than objectivity.

Still no attempt at addressing the questions posed, I see.
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Nice way to avoid the truth and facts in the article.
 
Toothpicvic said:
Science has already done that, lying hypocrite.


Habitually, as your OP proves. ;) If they didn't lie, they couldn't be Christians since they would be forced to admit that science and reality has left their religious delusions behind.


They have the freedom to spout deranged cultist nonsense (such as in the links you've provided), just as we have the freedom to debunk it with the facts.


Those "facts" have been debunked here. Liar:

APA Help Center - Health & Emotional Wellness - "Sexual Orientation, Homosexuality and Bisexuality"
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Bumped up;)

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Toothpicvic said:
Science has already done that, lying hypocrite.


Habitually, as your OP proves. ;) If they didn't lie, they couldn't be Christians since they would be forced to admit that science and reality has left their religious delusions behind.


They have the freedom to spout deranged cultist nonsense (such as in the links you've provided), just as we have the freedom to debunk it with the facts.


Those "facts" have been debunked here. Liar:

APA Help Center - Health & Emotional Wellness - "Sexual Orientation, Homosexuality and Bisexuality"
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Does nothing to show my most recent links are not truthful.
 
Toothpicvic said:
Provide proof or quit trying to dodge the facts in my article.
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He's not going to. I ran into ptif at another forum and about the only thing he is skilled at doing is bouncing from topic to topic hoping to win the debate by making you frustrated enough with his incoherence to walk away.

Don't expect a serious or even productive conversation to be had from him.
 
ptif219 said:
No one has shown where they are false.
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I'd say the fact that they come from a religious page that has a clear agenda makes them questionable considering that they are biased. Are you really having that much trouble coming up with unbiased sources?
 
Dr_Patrick said:
I'd say the fact that they come from a religious page that has a clear agenda makes them questionable considering that they are biased. Are you really having that much trouble coming up with unbiased sources?
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No it does not it shows your bias.

Show where the facts are wrong
 
ptif219 said:
No it does not it shows your bias.

Show where the facts are wrong
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I would say the same thing to someone who posted "proof" that came from a left wing site. So no, it has nothing to do with my bias. Nice attempt to turn it around though. :doh :lol:
 
Dr_Patrick said:
I would say the same thing to someone who posted "proof" that came from a left wing site. So no, it has nothing to do with my bias. Nice attempt to turn it around though. :doh :lol:
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This to me shows bias against Christians


I'd say the fact that they come from a religious page that has a clear agenda makes them questionable considering that they are biased.
 
ptif219 said:
This to me shows bias against Christians
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Asking for unbiased sources doesn't mean that I'm biased against Christians. I actually know plenty of Christians who have no problem with gay people or gay marriage for that matter. The author of the article that you posted has a clear agenda. Again, why can't you find an unbiased source? If the things in the article that you posted are facts, as you claim, you should have no trouble finding an unbiased source.
 
ptif219 said:
This to me shows bias against Christians


I'd say the fact that they come from a religious page that has a clear agenda makes them questionable considering that they are biased.
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Reality has an anti-Christian bias. I'd say that the Round Earth theory shows "bias" against the Flat Earth Society (some of whom are Christians). That doesn't change the facts.
 
ptif219 said:
Bias my ass you refuse to hear any side that disagrees with your view. I guess you have no answers to the facts in these links i post.
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Let's stop for a second and make the assumption you are right, and gays do not live as long as straits. Now, the question you still have not answered...how does this harm any one but gays?
 
Dr_Patrick said:
Asking for unbiased sources doesn't mean that I'm biased against Christians. I actually know plenty of Christians who have no problem with gay people or gay marriage for that matter. The author of the article that you posted has a clear agenda. Again, why can't you find an unbiased source? If the things in the article that you posted are facts, as you claim, you should have no trouble finding an unbiased source.
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Your words say a different story to me
 
Toothpicvic said:
Reality has an anti-Christian bias. I'd say that the Round Earth theory shows "bias" against the Flat Earth Society (some of whom are Christians). That doesn't change the facts.
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Exactly that is why I want people to dispute the facts not the source
 
jallman said:
And again, that list was never distributed to kids to read. It was suggested for teachers to pick and choose from if they wanted and for their own reading.

No one is handing Queer 13 to a 5th grader and saying to study it.
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How do we know they are not if the GLSEN is suggesting to.
 
Redress said:
Let's stop for a second and make the assumption you are right, and gays do not live as long as straits. Now, the question you still have not answered...how does this harm any one but gays?
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I have shown it is true you deny it. So now you don't care if gays die?
 
ptif219 said:
How do we know they are not if the GLSEN is suggesting to.
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OK, for the last ****ing time for all the morons who either can't read or can't keep up:

The article YOU quoted said:
All BookLink items are reviewed by GLSEN staff for quality and appropriateness of content. However, some titles for adolescent readers contain mature themes. We recommend that adults selecting books for youth review content for suitability.
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What, pray tell, is so hard about that statement that some people can't seem to get it through their thick skulls?
 
jallman said:
OK, for the last ****ing time for all the morons who either can't read or can't keep up:



What, pray tell, is so hard about that statement that some people can't seem to get it through their thick skulls?
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How does that prevent teachers from using them in class? If that is the case why have a book list?
 
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