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Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

Nice spin but it is apparent to me people would rather protect GLSEN than stand up for the kids

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The referenced blog is affiliated with the same organization that sponsors Worldnut. The Foundation for Religion and Life or something.

Those are worldnut authors.

So you have a problem with the organization and use it as an excuse to not debate the facts of the article.

I see the website matters more than the content of the article. A typical ploy when you have nothing to say.
 
Porn or questionable material for minors? Maaaaybe. Child porn? I see no child porn.
 
So I have to watch pornography to know what it is?

No. But you can't read a book by its cover either - problem with you is that you are not even making an attempt to do research. You're just going by what other people tell you. Did you know Sarah Palin was in a porno?
 
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So you have a problem with the organization and use it as an excuse to not debate the facts of the article.

I see the website matters more than the content of the article. A typical ploy when you have nothing to say.




Um_ From that website some of the books were

Catcher in the Rye, JD Salinger.

The Color Purple, Alice Walker.

Beloved, Toni Morrison.

Lord of the Flies, William Golding.

Of Mice and Men, John Steinbeck.

Brave New World, Aldous Huxley.

As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner.

Their Eyes were Watching God, Zora Neale Hurston.

Song of Solomon, Toni Morrison

Native Son, Richard Wright

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Ken Kesey.

Slaughterhouse Five, Kurt Vonnegut.



Non of these are Homosexual porn, I have read a lot of these books. They teach our kids about different things. Slaughterhouse five is about the slaughter house reformations in safety. Please read some of the books before you judge them. Oh and these are the high school books not kid books.

Anti-gay right advances new smear that DOE official Jennings promoting "Child Porn in the Classroom"


Conservative blogs have claimed that Department of Education official Kevin Jennings is unfit as "Safe Schools Czar" because he supposedly promoted "child porn" by allowing an education organization he founded to recommend for students in grades 7-12 books that included sexually explicit content. The organization, however, specifically stated on its book list website that "some titles for adolescent readers contain mature themes" and recommended that "adults selecting books for youth review content for suitability"; further, schools regularly teach books that contain sexually explicit material.

Anti-gay right advances new smear that DOE official Jennings promoting "Child Porn in the Classroom" | Media Matters for America


GLSEN: "We recommend that adults selecting books for youth review content for suitability"

As Baker acknowledged, in describing its BookLink section, GLSEN states in red type: "All BookLink items are reviewed by GLSEN staff for quality and appropriateness of content. However, some titles for adolescent readers contain mature themes. We recommend that adults selecting books for youth review content for suitability. The editorial and customer reviews listed at Amazon.com often provide information on mature content." From the section:

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I really don't see a problem here. It's a private organization and they're only recommendations. It's not like anyone is being forced to read anything. Some of them might be inappropriate for kids at a certain age, but that's why there's a warning on the website that parents/adults should review the material first.

Filth? What is filthy about them? Please show us your in depth knowledge of the books. You can start by referencing something more then what people tell you is them.

They are a teachers organization that has influence in the schools and with the children

The OP twists the truth concerning the literature found on GLSEN's reading list. But before providing my 2-cents worth, let me state for the record I had never heard of GLSEN until just one hour ago when upon finding this thread I did some research on the orginzation. For those who may be interested, you can learn more about this organization at their website, GLSEN. From there, you can click on the eductor link to find their reading list.

The "list" isn't a casual book list persa. It's a summary review of sorts of the books GLSEN recommends to educators as reference material to help children of all ages better cop with some of the more sexually oriented aspects of their lives ranging from a young child who has two same-sex parents to child sexual abuse to dealing with questions concerning gender, sexuality and sexual-orientation. And yes, some of the reading material is very graphic in nature. However, as I eluded to concerning the OP, I don't believe neither GLSEN nor it's president, Kevin Jennings, are promoting child pornography in the classroom, but instead are attempting to make literature that addresses the different aspects of gender, sexuality, sexual abuse and sexual orientation available to educators, parents, students of all ages who have problems discussing these delicate yet troubling issues.

Now, to the OP. Most (if not all) of the books mentioned therein are on the 7-12 reading list, not the K-6 reading list. Furthermore, as far as I've been able to determine none of the books are in public school libraries. (Of course, I could be wrong, but I doubt it since a "reading list" is just that - a list.) Therefore, I believe the OP as well as the thread title is purposefully misleading. To be fair, this isn't the first time GLSEN has promoted their recommended reading list to the public school system. In fact, from what I've been able to discover, the National Education Association has been accepting books from GLSEN's reading list for years. But, of course, it's not until Mr. Jennings becomes the President's Schools Czar does anyone pay attention to the matter. :roll:

As to my personal opinion on the matter, there's no way I'd support some of the literature recommended by GLSEN in public school libraries. As this linked website I've provided details, some of the recommended literature is quite graphic indeed and would support some of the concerns mentioned in the OP. But, the OP does over aggsagerate the issue at hand. If given the opportunity my vote would be "nay" on allowing the literature summarized on the linked website to be available on school library shelves. However, I wouldn't have a problem with school counselors or librarians having a list of such literature as a reference source to parents and/or students who are having problems coping with such subject matter material. For me, it's a matter of venue, not content I find troubling. Based on what I've discovered in my brief research, I just don't think such material should be available at public schools, but making such literature available at public and/or college libraries would be fine. Just not in public schools.

Bottom Line: I wouldn't go balistic over this unless and until you've actually found a few of the more disturbing books on the libary shelf at your child's public school. Until then, it's just a list...nothing more. Maybe you segment the list to "speciality reading", but until such material finds its way onto public school library shelves, I don't think we have much of a problem here. Besides, there are students out there who are having difficult times dealing with such subject matter issues. I see no problem with them being able to go to a librarian as recommended by their guidence counselor (or even their teacher) and asking for the appropriate literature to help them better deal with their problem. But in all cases involving students K-12, the parent should ALWAYS be involved.


Lots and lots have been said about the content of the "article".
 
Porn or questionable material for minors? Maaaaybe. Child porn? I see no child porn.

From the op link

My sexual exploits with my neighborhood playmates continued. I lived a busy homosexual childhood, somehow managing to avoid venereal disease through all my toddler years. By first grade I was sexually active with many friends. In fact, a small group of us regularly met in the grammar school lavatory to perform fellatio on one another. A typical week’s schedule would be Aaron and Michael on Monday during lunch; Michael and Johnny on Tuesday after school; Fred and Timmy at noon Wednesday; Aaron and Timmy after school on Thursday. None of us ever got caught, but we never worried about it anyway. We all understood that what we were doing was not to be discussed freely with adults but we viewed it as a fun sort of confidential activity. None of us had any guilty feelings about it; we figured everyone did it. Why shouldn’t they?
 
So you have a problem with the organization and use it as an excuse to not debate the facts of the article.

I see the website matters more than the content of the article. A typical ploy when you have nothing to say.

Yes, the source matters. I'm not going to use The Enquirer as a source when discussing politics. That's all Worldnut and others sponsored by that organization are: tabloids.

If you want to present some facts or verify what you think are facts with something reputable, then by all means do so. Other than that, your little attempt at creating a circus here are over.
 
No. But you can't read a book by its cover either - problem with you is that you are not even making an attempt to do research. You're just going by what other people tell you. Did you know Sarah Palin was in a porno?

You can read a Playboy or Hustler by its cover, that's why the cover them up at the register, so you can't steal at least that much. :D
 
You can read a Playboy or Hustler by its cover, that's why the cover them up at the register, so you can't steal at least that much. :D

Those are magazines.
 
Yes, the source matters. I'm not going to use The Enquirer as a source when discussing politics. That's all Worldnut and others sponsored by that organization are: tabloids.

If you want to present some facts or verify what you think are facts with something reputable, then by all means do so. Other than that, your little attempt at creating a circus here are over.

The left likes the huffington but yet you refuse to prove this wrong. maybe you just have no proof.
 
From the op link

My sexual exploits with my neighborhood playmates continued. I lived a busy homosexual childhood, somehow managing to avoid venereal disease through all my toddler years. By first grade I was sexually active with many friends. In fact, a small group of us regularly met in the grammar school lavatory to perform fellatio on one another. A typical week’s schedule would be Aaron and Michael on Monday during lunch; Michael and Johnny on Tuesday after school; Fred and Timmy at noon Wednesday; Aaron and Timmy after school on Thursday. None of us ever got caught, but we never worried about it anyway. We all understood that what we were doing was not to be discussed freely with adults but we viewed it as a fun sort of confidential activity. None of us had any guilty feelings about it; we figured everyone did it. Why shouldn’t they?

Sounds like fantasy land....does anyone remember their toddler years? much from first grade? especially the schedule...who remembers first grade schedules?
 
Sounds like fantasy land....does anyone remember their toddler years? much from first grade? especially the schedule...what first grader remembers schedules?

These are the books we are talking about
 
The left likes the huffington but yet you refuse to prove this wrong. maybe you just have no proof.

I don't have any respect for the Huffington Post either. Besides, crying "b-b-but they did it, toooooooooo!!!!!" is no excuse.

Are you presenting anything of substance or are we done here?
 
I don't have any respect for the Huffington Post either. Besides, crying "b-b-but they did it, toooooooooo!!!!!" is no excuse.

Are you presenting anything of substance or are we done here?

You maybe done since have not shown anything that refutes the OP
 
No. But you can't read a book by its cover either - problem with you is that you are not even making an attempt to do research. You're just going by what other people tell you. Did you know Sarah Palin was in a porno?

Really? Which one? She may be a bit of a nutjob, but she's still a hottie!!! :2razz:
 
No. But you can't read a book by its cover either - problem with you is that you are not even making an attempt to do research. You're just going by what other people tell you. Did you know Sarah Palin was in a porno?

Don't get your hopes up, it was a look alike :( BUt i do have the alleged home photos lying around here somewhere, when you compare jewelry and earlobes and her profile while...er...performing a certain act...it KINDA looks like her...
 
Really? Which one? She may be a bit of a nutjob, but she's still a hottie!!! :2razz:

a hottie without a brain is the type you spend a weekend with...you don't marry that kind. Eventually you might want to have an intelligent conversation with her, and you might find that she is lacking in that department
 
I'll take one Sarah Palin look-a-like for $100, Alex. :mrgreen: (3-15 minutes is all I need! :2razz: .... j/k)
 
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Except that refutation has been made. You have nothing.

Yet I show the explicit language that is not suitable for minors such as this. I will only post a small part but it is on the OP link. It is to explicit in my view for the forum.


A 13-year-old boy has a violent sexual encounter with an older man, which causes the boy to become desperate for sex, and he ends up spending the rest of the year promiscuously getting “my **** sucked and my ass ****ed” by “a seemingly endless supply of dicks” belonging to older men, concluding with “I really did enjoy those sexual encounters.”)
 
Yet I show the explicit language that is not suitable for minors such as this.

Minors such as what? The site explicitly states that there are some mature themes and that adults should pick books with discretion.

It's not as if this literature is simply being made available to kids with no oversight.

I will only post a small part but it is on the OP link. It is to explicit in my view for the forum.


A 13-year-old boy has a violent sexual encounter with an older man, which causes the boy to become desperate for sex, and he ends up spending the rest of the year promiscuously getting “my **** sucked and my ass ****ed” by “a seemingly endless supply of dicks” belonging to older men, concluding with “I really did enjoy those sexual encounters.”)

Outside of the context of why this situation was being related, I have no way of determining whether this was needlessly explicit or not. And neither do you.

But again, this literature isn't just passed out to kids. Adults pick out the literature.

You need to try a little harder if you are gonna be successful at a grade a hack job.
 
Minors such as what? The site explicitly states that there are some mature themes and that adults should pick books with discretion.

It's not as if this literature is simply being made available to kids with no oversight.



Outside of the context of why this situation was being related, I have no way of determining whether this was needlessly explicit or not. And neither do you.

But again, this literature isn't just passed out to kids. Adults pick out the literature.

You need to try a little harder if you are gonna be successful at a grade a hack job.

It can be given to minors by school teachers without parents knowing. So now the GLSEN gives the warning to itself. The teachers that would use the book most likely would be GLSEN members. I can tell you when I went to school these books would not be allowed in schools.
 
It can be given to minors by school teachers without parents knowing.

So this is now no longer about what is but what "could" be. So in effect, you got nothing.

So now the GLSEN gives the warning to itself. The teachers that would use the book most likely would be GLSEN members. I can tell you when I went to school these books would not be allowed in schools.

And?
 
So this is now no longer about what is but what "could" be. So in effect, you got nothing.



And?

We do not know how much this is in the class room we only know it is made available through the GLSEN
 
We do not know how much this is in the class room we only know it is made available through the GLSEN

So what is your beef, exactly? That the information is out there? That it might possibly be/might possibly not be in the classroom? That kids are being turned into homos because the schools are being reconfigured as gay processing centers for the coming of some new era of gay sex for all?

What, exactly, is your problem?
 
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