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    Re: Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Nice spin but it is apparent to me people would rather protect GLSEN than stand up for the kids
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    Re: Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The referenced blog is affiliated with the same organization that sponsors Worldnut. The Foundation for Religion and Life or something.

    Those are worldnut authors.
    So you have a problem with the organization and use it as an excuse to not debate the facts of the article.

    I see the website matters more than the content of the article. A typical ploy when you have nothing to say.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

    Porn or questionable material for minors? Maaaaybe. Child porn? I see no child porn.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So I have to watch pornography to know what it is?
    No. But you can't read a book by its cover either - problem with you is that you are not even making an attempt to do research. You're just going by what other people tell you. Did you know Sarah Palin was in a porno?
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    Re: Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So you have a problem with the organization and use it as an excuse to not debate the facts of the article.

    I see the website matters more than the content of the article. A typical ploy when you have nothing to say.



    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Um_ From that website some of the books were

    Catcher in the Rye, JD Salinger.

    The Color Purple, Alice Walker.

    Beloved, Toni Morrison.

    Lord of the Flies, William Golding.

    Of Mice and Men, John Steinbeck.

    Brave New World, Aldous Huxley.

    As I Lay Dying, William Faulkner.

    Their Eyes were Watching God, Zora Neale Hurston.

    Song of Solomon, Toni Morrison

    Native Son, Richard Wright

    One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Ken Kesey.

    Slaughterhouse Five, Kurt Vonnegut.



    Non of these are Homosexual porn, I have read a lot of these books. They teach our kids about different things. Slaughterhouse five is about the slaughter house reformations in safety. Please read some of the books before you judge them. Oh and these are the high school books not kid books.
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    Anti-gay right advances new smear that DOE official Jennings promoting "Child Porn in the Classroom"


    Conservative blogs have claimed that Department of Education official Kevin Jennings is unfit as "Safe Schools Czar" because he supposedly promoted "child porn" by allowing an education organization he founded to recommend for students in grades 7-12 books that included sexually explicit content. The organization, however, specifically stated on its book list website that "some titles for adolescent readers contain mature themes" and recommended that "adults selecting books for youth review content for suitability"; further, schools regularly teach books that contain sexually explicit material.

    Anti-gay right advances new smear that DOE official Jennings promoting "Child Porn in the Classroom" | Media Matters for America
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    GLSEN: "We recommend that adults selecting books for youth review content for suitability"

    As Baker acknowledged, in describing its BookLink section, GLSEN states in red type: "All BookLink items are reviewed by GLSEN staff for quality and appropriateness of content. However, some titles for adolescent readers contain mature themes. We recommend that adults selecting books for youth review content for suitability. The editorial and customer reviews listed at Amazon.com often provide information on mature content." From the section:

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I really don't see a problem here. It's a private organization and they're only recommendations. It's not like anyone is being forced to read anything. Some of them might be inappropriate for kids at a certain age, but that's why there's a warning on the website that parents/adults should review the material first.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Filth? What is filthy about them? Please show us your in depth knowledge of the books. You can start by referencing something more then what people tell you is them.
    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    They are a teachers organization that has influence in the schools and with the children
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    The OP twists the truth concerning the literature found on GLSEN's reading list. But before providing my 2-cents worth, let me state for the record I had never heard of GLSEN until just one hour ago when upon finding this thread I did some research on the orginzation. For those who may be interested, you can learn more about this organization at their website, GLSEN. From there, you can click on the eductor link to find their reading list.

    The "list" isn't a casual book list persa. It's a summary review of sorts of the books GLSEN recommends to educators as reference material to help children of all ages better cop with some of the more sexually oriented aspects of their lives ranging from a young child who has two same-sex parents to child sexual abuse to dealing with questions concerning gender, sexuality and sexual-orientation. And yes, some of the reading material is very graphic in nature. However, as I eluded to concerning the OP, I don't believe neither GLSEN nor it's president, Kevin Jennings, are promoting child pornography in the classroom, but instead are attempting to make literature that addresses the different aspects of gender, sexuality, sexual abuse and sexual orientation available to educators, parents, students of all ages who have problems discussing these delicate yet troubling issues.

    Now, to the OP. Most (if not all) of the books mentioned therein are on the 7-12 reading list, not the K-6 reading list. Furthermore, as far as I've been able to determine none of the books are in public school libraries. (Of course, I could be wrong, but I doubt it since a "reading list" is just that - a list.) Therefore, I believe the OP as well as the thread title is purposefully misleading. To be fair, this isn't the first time GLSEN has promoted their recommended reading list to the public school system. In fact, from what I've been able to discover, the National Education Association has been accepting books from GLSEN's reading list for years. But, of course, it's not until Mr. Jennings becomes the President's Schools Czar does anyone pay attention to the matter.

    As to my personal opinion on the matter, there's no way I'd support some of the literature recommended by GLSEN in public school libraries. As this linked website I've provided details, some of the recommended literature is quite graphic indeed and would support some of the concerns mentioned in the OP. But, the OP does over aggsagerate the issue at hand. If given the opportunity my vote would be "nay" on allowing the literature summarized on the linked website to be available on school library shelves. However, I wouldn't have a problem with school counselors or librarians having a list of such literature as a reference source to parents and/or students who are having problems coping with such subject matter material. For me, it's a matter of venue, not content I find troubling. Based on what I've discovered in my brief research, I just don't think such material should be available at public schools, but making such literature available at public and/or college libraries would be fine. Just not in public schools.

    Bottom Line: I wouldn't go balistic over this unless and until you've actually found a few of the more disturbing books on the libary shelf at your child's public school. Until then, it's just a list...nothing more. Maybe you segment the list to "speciality reading", but until such material finds its way onto public school library shelves, I don't think we have much of a problem here. Besides, there are students out there who are having difficult times dealing with such subject matter issues. I see no problem with them being able to go to a librarian as recommended by their guidence counselor (or even their teacher) and asking for the appropriate literature to help them better deal with their problem. But in all cases involving students K-12, the parent should ALWAYS be involved.

    Lots and lots have been said about the content of the "article".
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    Re: Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Porn or questionable material for minors? Maaaaybe. Child porn? I see no child porn.
    From the op link

    My sexual exploits with my neighborhood playmates continued. I lived a busy homosexual childhood, somehow managing to avoid venereal disease through all my toddler years. By first grade I was sexually active with many friends. In fact, a small group of us regularly met in the grammar school lavatory to perform fellatio on one another. A typical week’s schedule would be Aaron and Michael on Monday during lunch; Michael and Johnny on Tuesday after school; Fred and Timmy at noon Wednesday; Aaron and Timmy after school on Thursday. None of us ever got caught, but we never worried about it anyway. We all understood that what we were doing was not to be discussed freely with adults but we viewed it as a fun sort of confidential activity. None of us had any guilty feelings about it; we figured everyone did it. Why shouldn’t they?

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    Re: Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So you have a problem with the organization and use it as an excuse to not debate the facts of the article.

    I see the website matters more than the content of the article. A typical ploy when you have nothing to say.
    Yes, the source matters. I'm not going to use The Enquirer as a source when discussing politics. That's all Worldnut and others sponsored by that organization are: tabloids.

    If you want to present some facts or verify what you think are facts with something reputable, then by all means do so. Other than that, your little attempt at creating a circus here are over.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No. But you can't read a book by its cover either - problem with you is that you are not even making an attempt to do research. You're just going by what other people tell you. Did you know Sarah Palin was in a porno?
    You can read a Playboy or Hustler by its cover, that's why the cover them up at the register, so you can't steal at least that much.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    You can read a Playboy or Hustler by its cover, that's why the cover them up at the register, so you can't steal at least that much.
    Those are magazines.
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    Re: Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Yes, the source matters. I'm not going to use The Enquirer as a source when discussing politics. That's all Worldnut and others sponsored by that organization are: tabloids.

    If you want to present some facts or verify what you think are facts with something reputable, then by all means do so. Other than that, your little attempt at creating a circus here are over.
    The left likes the huffington but yet you refuse to prove this wrong. maybe you just have no proof.

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