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Man Controls Cybernetic Hand with Thoughts.

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Man controls cybernetic hand with thoughts | Crave - CNET

European scientists have successfully built a brain-controlled bionic hand that could be used to kill or maim hundreds of humans in the coming robot versus humans' civil war. Or, far more admirably, allow amputees to feel hand sensations and manipulate their limb--via the brain--as if it were still there.
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This is pretty damn cool. Imagine what this technology could do for amputees all over the world once it's perfected and on the market.

Then again, how long will it be before some idiot decides he'd rather have a bionic hand than a real one and cuts his own arm off for no reason?
 
molten_dragon said:
Then again, how long will it be before some idiot decides he'd rather have a bionic hand than a real one and cuts his own arm off for no reason?
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How long until the bionic hands are better? As soon as they produce a bionic hand that I can leave attached overnight, that doesn't get tired like my hands, without sacrificing sensitivity and fine control, I'll be looking to replace the ones I was born with.

Bonus points for studded knuckles.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
How long until the bionic hands are better? As soon as they produce a bionic hand that I can leave attached overnight, that doesn't get tired like my hands, without sacrificing sensitivity and fine control, I'll be looking to replace the ones I was born with.

Bonus points for studded knuckles.
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Ill wait till they have complex algorithms for my limbs. It would be bad assed to just look at someone and think-boot a program to make you perform all the moves of your favorite martial arts an their frail non-metallic bodies.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Ill wait till they have complex algorithms for my limbs. It would be bad assed to just look at someone and think-boot a program to make you perform all the moves of your favorite martial arts an their frail non-metallic bodies.
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The amount of coordination that would require between all four limbs and your trunk muscles means that it would be easier to run such a thing through the motion controls of the brain-- no cyberlimbs required. Though, it would be nice to make sure your bones could withstand the forces generated by your favorite martial arts.

Mine can't. X-Rays of my hands look like I've got spiders living in them.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
The amount of coordination that would require between all four limbs and your trunk muscles means that it would be easier to run such a thing through the motion controls of the brain-- no cyberlimbs required. Though, it would be nice to make sure your bones could withstand the forces generated by your favorite martial arts.

Mine can't. X-Rays of my hands look like I've got spiders living in them.
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I wonder how long it will before the control can be done wirelessly? Imagine soldiers controlling androform fighting machines with their thoughts rather than taking their own frail human bodies into a warzone. I can't imagine that the government isn't already researching this.
 
molten_dragon said:
I wonder how long it will before the control can be done wirelessly? Imagine soldiers controlling androform fighting machines with their thoughts rather than taking their own frail human bodies into a warzone. I can't imagine that the government isn't already researching this.
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Terminator is not that far off, look at what drones can do....:shock:
 
Which do you guys think will come first, the technology for cybernetic limbs that are better than or equal to our biological limbs, or the technology to grow new limbs?
 
Polynikes said:
Which do you guys think will come first, the technology for cybernetic limbs that are better than or equal to our biological limbs, or the technology to grow new limbs?
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Technology and nature will meld perfectly eventually.
 
Polynikes said:
Which do you guys think will come first, the technology for cybernetic limbs that are better than or equal to our biological limbs, or the technology to grow new limbs?
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Very interesting question. There have been advances in both fields lately. I suspect they'll evolve pretty much in parallel.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Technology and nature will meld perfectly eventually.
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I posted this as a stand alone thread a little while ago in the Science and Technology Forum, it recieved its fair share of views, but no one replied. I think it fits very appropriately with this discussion, especially the last link. Certainly interesting topics, if nothing else.


Waking Up In Time - Singularities

That site is a little out there, but offers some interesting opinions and knowledge.


When might this moment occur? People such as Vernor Vinge, who chart the acceleration of technological development, argue for a date somewhere around the year 2035. They believe the trigger for the singularity will be the development of the super-intelligent computer. Although current computers are very fast by human standards, they are still not nearly as complex as our own brains. In terms of sheer processing capacity, the human brain, with its tens of billions of neurons, is around a million times more powerful than a computer. That is why you and I can easily pick out a person from a background of trees and buildings, and recognize them as someone we know, all in a fraction of second, while a robot still has a hard time following the white line down the middle of the road.


However, if computing power keeps doubling every eighteen months, as it has done for the last twenty years, then sometime in the 2030s there will be computers that can equal the human brain’s abilities. From there it is only a small step to the computer that can surpass the human brain. There would then be little point in human beings’designing future computers; super-intelligent machines would be able to design better ones, and do so faster. Once super-intelligent machines, rather than human beings, drove the rate of progress, an exponential runaway effect would be created. Computer power would no longer be doubling once every eighteen months. A simple mathematical analysis shows that super-intelligent computers designing even more intelligent machines, which in turn could design yet more intelligent machines would cause the doubling time to drop from eighteen months to nine months, to four-and-a-half months, to nine weeks, to thirty days, to fifteen days . . . Another two weeks after that, computing power would have reached infinity. We would have arrived at a singularity -- the point at which the mathematical equations break down, and the old laws no longer apply.



Vernor Vinge on the Singularity

Vernor Vinge is credited with recognizing the implications of what occurs leading up to the singularity and whether it can be avoided among other things.



Welcome to Principia Cybernetica Web

A very interesting site that I have barely scratched the surface of. Offers many intelligent insights into defining things such as consciousness and also addresses epistemological and metaphysical concerns regarding cybernetics.

Cybernetic integration of humans must preserve the creative core of human individual, because it is the engine of evolution. And it must make it immortal, because for the purpose of evolution there is no sense in killing humans. In natural selection, the source of change is the mutation of the gene; nature creates by experimenting on genes and seeing what kind of a body they produce. Therefore, nature has to destroy older creations in order to make room for the newer ones. The mortality of multicellular organisms is an evolutionary necessity. At the present new stage of evolution, the evolution of human-made culture, the human brain is the source of creativity, not an object of experimentation. Its loss in death is unjustifiable; it is an evolutionary absurdity. The immortality of human beings is on the agenda of Cosmic Evolution.


With the progress being made in nanotechnology and artificial intelligence, is the next stage in human evolution inevitably going to lead to a future of cybernetic organisms?
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
How long until the bionic hands are better? As soon as they produce a bionic hand that I can leave attached overnight, that doesn't get tired like my hands, without sacrificing sensitivity and fine control, I'll be looking to replace the ones I was born with.

Bonus points for studded knuckles.
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You play too many video games :)

This reminded me of that early PS2 Game "Bouncer".
 
Hell, there was an old NES game called "Shatterhands" that was based on a guy and his... well, shatterhands. Good stuff.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
Hell, there was an old NES game called "Shatterhands" that was based on a guy and his... well, shatterhands. Good stuff.
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My only memories of NES is Streetfighter.

Then I got the N64 and Harvest Moon 64... oh my god.
 
<off topic>Don't forget animal crossing!!!</off topic>
 
Interesting. The potential seems fantastic. It isnt too much of a step to go wireless and use the control signal for other things. Driving, flying, etc.
 
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