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Climategate: it's all unravelling now

Sorry don't know of that book. Bush was a Democrat as is McCain. It is not their fault that their party was hijacked by Liberals and the Republican party was the only place for them.

Thanks for clarifying the position... I know now that I'm essentially in full agreement here.

It's like with the soviet union there was 1 party... here in america we have the choice... do we want the hammer or the sickle?

About the book; 'ecoscience' written by John P Holdren and Paul R. Ehrlich. It's essentially a policy book about ways in which to handle 'overpopulation'. One of the main points was discussing ways to sterilize men and women without also sterilizing other animals, in such a way that there would be an 'antidote' which could be obtained through a successful application process where you would have to prove why you are worthy of being a parent. Which ties into my next point :

How many scientist do you think are not Liberal? How hard do you think it would have been for Bush to find an Conservative scientist?

I forget where the suggestion was made, but I remember reading the challenge to go to the heads of the psychology, sociology, or biology in ANY university and ask them about 'overpopulation' or 'the people bomb' and likely in EVERY case the heads of those departments would be all to happy to tell you of the need to depopulate the planet...

I have seen this movement grow for the last 40 years of my life, so it is no surprise to me. It is a movement of "lies and hatred", this is all the motivation and cause they need. They wake up in the morning and their eyes scan the horizon for things to hate. and then their minds start to whirl on how they can manipulate it with lies.

I haven't been around for 40 years... but I have spent time when I was younger researching corporate corruption, which tied into politicians surprisingly often in cases that are too numerous to list.

As I looked deeper, then I started to be called a 'conspiracy theorist' in spite of the fact that others under the same label, who were legitimate researchers and experts in their fields that have a surprisingly good track record of predicting future events... (one example : when oil was around 60$ /barrel I heard of the discussion to manipulate the cost of oil to bring it to the 150-200$ range within a year... this was blasted as nonsense... yet, like clockwork it happened.)

Then you come across books like 1968's "limits to growth" and 1991's "the final revolution" (both coming from the club of Rome, of which Al Gore is a standing member) and the picture becomes even more clear... so when climate gate came out, it was more a 'finally' then a 'seriously?', in my view.
 
... THIS the BIGGEST hoax ever perpetrated..

Is THAT what you think is nonsense??

AMAZING logic stream!

I'm SO glad I'm grown up and left that ridiculous liberal mindset behind....

Although life was SO much more pleasant when I had held that ignorance!

Yeah.... you keep telling yourself that....
 
So in other words you support criminal behavior as long as the results favor your political views. Good to know.

I support criminal behavior if it uncovers a massive fraud being perpetrated on the world by so-called scientists.
 
I support criminal behavior if it uncovers a massive fraud being perpetrated on the world by so-called scientists.

It's an irrelevant point because there was nothing ilegal about how this information was obtained.
 
This thread should be moved to the conspiracy theory forum. All this talk about conspiracies to destroy the U.S., liberal extremism, and all that non-sense, is just so over the top. The only people crying out about extremism are actually the extremists who are so partisan and reactionary that they can't even stop for one second to look at the facts.

CRU was ONE climate research organization. There are thousands of others worldwide, all independent but contributory to climate journals. You can't just go and say they're all wrong when they've contributed, collectively, to decades worth of research.

It's not a crime to expose criminals and I'm in favor of justice, but it's a crime to hack into computer databases. I could just as easily call this a right-wing conspiracy manufactured by the rich industry elites who want to create popular dissent against AGW research - which, by the way, has in no way been invalidated by this one incident - because the truth is becoming so widespread. But since I'm not an extremist, I have no interest in such theoretical garbage.

Fact is, those against AGW have consistently failed in providing counter evidence time after time, both on these forums and elsewhere. If this conspiracy theorist non-sense is all they have left to cling to in order to try to prop up their ideas, then all the power to them.

In the mean time, REAL research continues.

That's the Lib's answer every time they start to lose the argument, or inconvenient facts start to show up........or were you talking about the Global Warming conspiracy?
 
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All this talk about conspiracies to destroy the U.S., liberal extremism, and all that non-sense, is just so over the top.

It is NOT liberal extremism, it's PROGRESSIVE extremism! Have you made a conscious decision to ignore it or are you a part of it?

[/QUOTE]It's not a crime to expose criminals and I'm in favor of justice, but it's a crime to hack into computer databases. [/QUOTE]

Exactly! don't concern yourself with a conspiracy of fraud perpetrated against the population of the entire know universe.. let's prosecute the people that exposed it... While we're at it lets do an investigation into those that hacked Palin's email during an election!


[/QUOTE]In the mean time, REAL research continues.[/QUOTE]

Real science has been taken over by enviro-fascists and their "peer reviews" are ethically bankrupt.. BUT maybe we can still get those evil hackers!:2wave:
 
Putting our economy in the hands of Chavez fans | Herald Sun Andrew Bolt Blog

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These maniacs (mentally handicapped) in Copenhagen are voting on your future:

President Chavez brought the house down.

When he said the process in Copenhagen was “not democratic, it is not inclusive, but isn’t that the reality of our world, the world is really and imperial dictatorship…down with imperial dictatorships” he got a rousing round of applause (what a surprise... socialists gleeful of a tyrant's words).

When he said there was a “silent and terrible ghost in the room” and that ghost was called capitalism, the applause was deafening. (Isn't it nice to see Algore's soul mate rev up the loons; betcha he's jealous)

But then he wound up to his grand conclusion – 20 minutes after his 5 minute speaking time was supposed to have ended and after quoting everyone from Karl Marx to Jesus Christ - “our revolution seeks to help all people…socialism, the other ghost that is probably wandering around this room, that’s the way to save the planet, capitalism is the road to hell (Cuba, the Iron Curtain countries,... now that is "hell")....let’s fight against capitalism and make it obey us. (that's the goal... OBEDIENCE)” He won a standing ovation.

Now off to the Gulag you non-believers.
 
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