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    Re: Climategate: it's all unravelling now

    Quote Originally Posted by PeopleforFreedom View Post
    The question is:

    Is it a crime to expose criminal minds?

    As I have said before, Modern Liberalism is a movement of "Lies and Hatred". The proof is in the media daily that we must except most of what comes out of a liberal mouth as corrupt. This is the biggest issue in our society right now, even ahead of Terrorism. Terrorist will kill individuals, but a movement of "Lies and Hatred" can destroy a nation.
    This thread should be moved to the conspiracy theory forum. All this talk about conspiracies to destroy the U.S., liberal extremism, and all that non-sense, is just so over the top. The only people crying out about extremism are actually the extremists who are so partisan and reactionary that they can't even stop for one second to look at the facts.

    CRU was ONE climate research organization. There are thousands of others worldwide, all independent but contributory to climate journals. You can't just go and say they're all wrong when they've contributed, collectively, to decades worth of research.

    It's not a crime to expose criminals and I'm in favor of justice, but it's a crime to hack into computer databases. I could just as easily call this a right-wing conspiracy manufactured by the rich industry elites who want to create popular dissent against AGW research - which, by the way, has in no way been invalidated by this one incident - because the truth is becoming so widespread. But since I'm not an extremist, I have no interest in such theoretical garbage.

    Fact is, those against AGW have consistently failed in providing counter evidence time after time, both on these forums and elsewhere. If this conspiracy theorist non-sense is all they have left to cling to in order to try to prop up their ideas, then all the power to them.

    In the mean time, REAL research continues.

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    Re: Climategate: it's all unravelling now

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    They ought to find the group who broke into the UAE system, and give them all Nobel Prizes for Science. These guys did more for science without degrees than the guys who fudged the data.
    Look, the Hyper-partisans have found their new Acorn!!

    And Sarah Palin is now a birther. Bravo, far-right, way to drag the entire party down.

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    Re: Climategate: it's all unravelling now

    Quote Originally Posted by GarzaUK View Post
    Ok so the points he made about the e-mails, are you going to address those?
    To be honest, there are so many points that go unaddressed by the extremists, that I almost don't even feel the need to....

    I mean, so those 2 e-mails out of the 100's are legitimately taken out of context, there are SEVERAL others which show a strong bias against opposing viewpoints (to say the least) and so on that did NOT get mainstream attention (in the US at least) that the credibility of the IPCC has been reduced to nil. It's a shame really that the only solution is to throw out the last 20 years of climate science and restart the research with a fresh group that is not thoroughly corrupt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    So in other words you support criminal behavior as long as the results favor your political views. Good to know.
    Funny, it turns out that the outcome was not even the result of a hacker in the first place but of a whistleblower... there's another thread that brought this issue to light.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This whole thing is an embarrassment to the extremist liberals, who have counted on destroying the United States for the last 30+ years. I usually don't go in for conspiracies, but I think that this is one, actually orchestrated by academia. I think this is only the tip of the melting iceberg....and there is likely more revelations to come.
    Thanks... people have been suspecting this conspiracy for YEARS, and now to finally have the proof of this corruption people want to throw this into 'conspiracy theory' because they can't face the fact that these guys are BUSTED, and now an investigation to see who goes to jail, who loses their jobs, and who gets reprimanded is in order.

    Not to mention the books 'limits to growth' and 'the final revolution' (1968 and 1991) that both discuss how issues LIKE global warming would be used to suit a particular agenda.

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    Re: Climategate: it's all unravelling now

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    This thread should be moved to the conspiracy theory forum. All this talk about conspiracies to destroy the U.S., liberal extremism, and all that non-sense, is just so over the top. The only people crying out about extremism are actually the extremists who are so partisan and reactionary that they can't even stop for one second to look at the facts.
    You know the funny part of this... before the issue of 'cap and trade' schemes came up, there was ALEADY talk of the carbon TAXES which would follow the schemes failure.

    It sounds 'over the top', but seriously, what else would you expect when the 'solution' to global warming is 'an ever increasing tax on carbon emissions' (5lbs/day -> 1500lbs/year of co2... initially 5-6$ carbon tax per year of BREATHING... 20 years later the cost might be up to 50$ a year to breath).

    CRU was ONE climate research organization. There are thousands of others worldwide, all independent but contributory to climate journals. You can't just go and say they're all wrong when they've contributed, collectively, to decades worth of research.
    Here's the difference :

    These smaller labs are subordinate to the IPCC's findings, and the CRU was a part of this international body that was proposing the 'copenhagen treaty' which would see North American's be hit hard with a new tax payable to the IMF based on carbon emissions... that would be EVER INCREASING.

    These other labs that you're defending... well, unless I'm mistaken, don't they go to the CRU for the reliable data??

    Do you know how much money would be taken through this carbon tax globally??? (Hint : Al Gore is already a 'climate billionaire', and the tax isn't even in place yet)

    It's not a crime to expose criminals and I'm in favor of justice, but it's a crime to hack into computer databases. I could just as easily call this a right-wing conspiracy manufactured by the rich industry elites who want to create popular dissent against AGW research - which, by the way, has in no way been invalidated by this one incident - because the truth is becoming so widespread. But since I'm not an extremist, I have no interest in such theoretical garbage.
    Afterall, there was NO HACKING involved. No laws were broken in obtaining those emails.

    Sorry, but if the science is based on fraud, the raw data destroyed (claimed lost), and all the other evidence... that calls into question every involved scientists life work... and would even endanger the work of fellow colleagues through this fraud.

    The world was almost conned.

    Fact is, those against AGW have consistently failed in providing counter evidence time after time, both on these forums and elsewhere. If this conspiracy theorist non-sense is all they have left to cling to in order to try to prop up their ideas, then all the power to them.
    About 3 pages back I had the links which countered pretty well every contention of 'alarmist agw propaganda' :
    - Polar bear numbers are increasing (they can swim afterall)
    - many crustaceans grow thicker shells in acidic water, or were not impacted untill rediculous co2 levels were applied
    - the ice caps are increasing overall
    - the forests are regrowing (though cutting down old growth forest is probably still not a good things)

    On EVERY POINT the legitimate science shows the AGW crowd to be nothing more then overzealous fear-mongers.... and now the chief scientists involved in the research are being exposed for the fraudster conmen that they are.

    In the mean time, REAL research continues.
    Yes, because there are still enough people that 'have faith' in the church of climateology even in the face of their high priests being exposed for frauds.

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    Re: Climategate: it's all unravelling now

    Hi BmanMcfly.

    There is also the issue of the period when the "Sun" was throwing off some of the biggest solar flares on record about 8 years back. The temperatures spiked and the Liberals ran with this spike in order to gain 'Power and Money'. In the process they hijacked the environmental movement for political gain.

    We must remember that most, if not all the corrupt scientist are Liberals. The question now is! How corrupt are all the other scientific findings by Liberals?

    Again, this the bigger issue, that 'modern Liberalism' is an entity of corruption that only truly cares about 'Power and Money'. Every day now the proof is becoming overwhelming, and "We the People" must jump in on this time in history and put a stop to modern Liberalism as a political entity. To do this we must convince Progressives to stand alone once again, and not be political pawns of modern Liberalism.
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    Re: Climategate: it's all unravelling now

    Quote Originally Posted by PeopleforFreedom View Post
    Hi BmanMcfly.

    There is also the issue of the period when the "Sun" was throwing off some of the biggest solar flares on record about 8 years back. The temperatures spiked and the Liberals ran with this spike in order to gain 'Power and Money'. In the process they hijacked the environmental movement for political gain.
    I had brought up a similar issue some pages back, saying that the sun was responsible for the temperature of the planet, the reply was along the lines of "the sun is irrellevant for AGW because the sun doesn't add CO2 to the atmosphere"

    We must remember that most, if not all the corrupt scientist are Liberals. The question now is! How corrupt are all the other scientific findings by Liberals?
    I couldn't find the link again, but mr John P. Holdren is out defending the 'alarmist AGW position' in spite of 'climategate'... we can't forget that this is the man that wrote an entire book about population control, reduction, methods of mass sterilization (the 'remedy' available to would-be parents to be approuved by government), and so on...

    Again, this the bigger issue, that 'modern Liberalism' is an entity of corruption that only truly cares about 'Power and Money'. Every day now the proof is becoming overwhelming, and "We the People" must jump in on this time in history and put a stop to modern Liberalism as a political entity. To do this we must convince Progressives to stand alone once again, and not be political pawns of modern Liberalism.
    Yes, there is an awakening going on... this is an issue of GLOBAL proportions, Climategate comes straight out of the UN, and the time is growing short to find the SOURCE of all this corruption and to weed it out of the power systems, whether they be liberal, conservative, or even libertarian (yes, there also exists elements of 'controlled opposition'). "liberty or death" will be the type of mentality that might just save the world... especially when the alternative is complete impoverishment and enslavement of the people of the world.

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    Re: Climategate: it's all unravelling now

    Quote Originally Posted by PeopleforFreedom View Post
    Hi BmanMcfly.

    There is also the issue of the period when the "Sun" was throwing off some of the biggest solar flares on record about 8 years back. The temperatures spiked and the Liberals ran with this spike in order to gain 'Power and Money'. In the process they hijacked the environmental movement for political gain.


    The sun isn't causing this.

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    Re: Climategate: it's all unravelling now

    It's more than just hacked emails uncovering some conspiracy...

    BBC Exposes 'Fudge Factor' in ClimateGate Global Warming Computer Programming Code

    Computer engineers have examined the source code used in the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit. The CRU had wholesale problems with their code that their data was pulled from and being cited by other scientists as gospel. There were billions and maybe even trillions of dollars at stake.

    There's a video of the BBC's coverage of this story, just click the above link.

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    Re: Climategate: it's all unravelling now

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    The sun isn't causing this.
    Read my post! I said it was during the last temperature rise, that the Global warming crazy took off.

    This temperature rise happens during the 11 year cyclical solar flaring. The next one is due to happen around now, and believe me that the liberal scientist know this, and are getting prepared to run through the streets yelling we are right, look at how the temperatures are rising due to carbon emissions. After all Liberal minds speed most of their days trying to think up "lies" to advance their agenda's.
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    Re: Climategate: it's all unravelling now

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    I had brought up a similar issue some pages back, saying that the sun was responsible for the temperature of the planet, the reply was along the lines of "the sun is irrellevant for AGW because the sun doesn't add CO2 to the atmosphere"
    Do you think there were Liberal Cave men running around yelling global warming during the age of Erupting Volcano's and big lunged dinosaurs?


    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    I couldn't find the link again, but mr John P. Holdren is out defending the 'alarmist AGW position' in spite of 'climategate'... we can't forget that this is the man that wrote an entire book about population control, reduction, methods of mass sterilization (the 'remedy' available to would-be parents to be approuved by government), and so on...
    As I have said many times the Liberal movement is a movement of "lies and hatred", and Holdren is a Liberal who hates People, and spreads lies to express this hatred.


    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Yes, there is an awakening going on... this is an issue of GLOBAL proportions, Climategate comes straight out of the UN, and the time is growing short to find the SOURCE of all this corruption and to weed it out of the power systems, whether they be liberal, conservative, or even libertarian (yes, there also exists elements of 'controlled opposition'). "liberty or death" will be the type of mentality that might just save the world... especially when the alternative is complete impoverishment and enslavement of the people of the world.
    There are others groups who are corrupt also, this is a fact about humans. But! It is modern Liberalism that Hates America and wants to turn it into a second class China. It is Liberals that study the teachings on how to use corrupt thinking in order to gain power and money. It is Liberals that see the lack of morality as a gift, to be used to achieve goals. Liberals are in control of the Universities, Science centres, Media, entertainment, and now the Federal Government. So, who is the biggest threat to freedom, if it is not a movement of "lies and hatred" called modern Liberalism?
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