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    Re: Chris Mathews Calls West Point an "Enemy camp"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    "It seems like in this case, there isn't a lot of excitement," Matthews said. "I watched the cadets, they were young kids - men and women who were committed to serving their country professionally it must be said, as officers. And, I didn't see much excitement. But among the older people there, I saw, if not resentment, skepticism. I didn't see a lot of warmth in that crowd out there. The president chose to address tonight and I thought it was interesting. He went to maybe the enemy camp tonight to make his case. I mean, that's where Paul Wolfowitz used to write speeches for, back in the old Bush days. That's where he went to rabble rouse the "we're going to democratize the world" campaign back in '02. So, I thought it was a strange venue."

    I think this says it all, especially the comment about "a strange venue" where else would you go to announce you are sending more military people to war....."strange venue"....really?
    Again, you are seeing something that is not there. It's a strange venue in that it is largely conservative, and as such, unlikely to give a wildly enthusiastic reception to what he is saying. Note that nothing there suggest they where less than respectful, just that he saw "skepticism". That is not a criticism of the people in any way. Most politicians like to give speeches where they will get lots of applause and cheers. This was unlikely due to the choice of venue, which is what matthews was commenting on.
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    Re: Chris Mathews Calls West Point an "Enemy camp"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Again, you are seeing something that is not there. It's a strange venue in that it is largely conservative, and as such, unlikely to give a wildly enthusiastic reception to what he is saying. Note that nothing there suggest they where less than respectful, just that he saw "skepticism". That is not a criticism of the people in any way. Most politicians like to give speeches where they will get lots of applause and cheers. This was unlikely due to the choice of venue, which is what matthews was commenting on.
    I guess this is the never ending campaign Howard Deam was referring to, he is spot on! This is the president of the united states, not the president of those who love and respect him, the venue was ideal, period!

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    Re: Chris Mathews Calls West Point an "Enemy camp"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    I guess this is the never ending campaign Howard Deam was referring to, he is spot on! This is the president of the united states, not the president of those who love and respect him, the venue was ideal, period!
    I don't disagree that it was an appropriate venue, but it is odd for a liberal president to make a major speech in front of a less friendly crowd.
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    Re: Chris Mathews Calls West Point an "Enemy camp"

    I know one of the West Point Cadets who was in the audience. I'll ask him what he thinks about the President's plan.

    I know that he voted for Obama and believes Bush lied us into the war in Iraq.

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    Re: Chris Mathews Calls West Point an "Enemy camp"

    I'm not alone in my belief that the venue makes perfect sense.


    West Point a symbolic venue for president

    WEST POINT — On Tuesday, President Barack Obama will do something familiar and unique as he stands at the U.S. Military Academy to announce his new policy in Afghanistan. In choosing West Point as the backdrop for his 8 p.m. policy speech, Obama repeats past presidents' practices but also aims attention at Americans doubtful about increasing the country's investment in war, said Chester Pach, a presidential historian and Ohio University professor.

    West Point has been a setting where presidents from Franklin Roosevelt to George W. Bush have talked military methodology.

    In 2002, George W. Bush laid out for graduates what became known as the "Bush Doctrine." He asserted that modern terrorism requires the United States to employ pre-emptive strikes against other nations.

    But Bush's commencement speech was a continuation in spelling out his strategy, said Pach. Obama and his advisers, however, are using the venue differently.

    "They want to call attention to the new steps that they're taking in Afghanistan, but also to point out the costs of doing so by speaking to people who will be serving," Pach said.

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    Re: Chris Mathews Calls West Point an "Enemy camp"

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I do. do you think they would have acted in any other way than at the utmost respect?


    How sad a commentary it is for the commnder in chief to have those he commands viewed as "Enemy territory"...
    What Chis was upset about is that Bush always got a rousing, standing ovation when he went to West Point.... the Commandant had to tell the Cadets before Barry's appearance to be respectful when Barry appeared, and not let politics get involved. (I think that meant no booing)
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    Re: Chris Mathews Calls West Point an "Enemy camp"

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    What Chis was upset about is that Bush always got a rousing, standing ovation when he went to West Point.... the Commandant had to tell the Cadets before Barry's appearance to be respectful when Barry appeared, and not let politics get involved. (I think that meant no booing)
    I was at two executive speeches, one from Bush the elder, and one from Quayle, and we were told the same thing both times.
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    Re: Chris Mathews Calls West Point an "Enemy camp"

    Does anyone honestly think he would have gotten a rousing reception if he had given that speech at Moscone Center with a democrats only crowd?

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    Re: Chris Mathews Calls West Point an "Enemy camp"

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    he's biased. but his point was clear enough, and true. obama showed some guts addressing that audience.
    Why would he have any trepidation whatsoever unless he did not have their best interests at heart?
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    Re: Chris Mathews Calls West Point an "Enemy camp"

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Does anyone honestly think he would have gotten a rousing reception if he had given that speech at Moscone Center with a democrats only crowd?

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    Great point, I think this man is an island on to himself at this point, but bravo, he cannot find a friendly venue!

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