Goobie, let's get some things clear since you seem confused.
1. Are not the leading factors in the decline of traditional marriage no fault divorce and women leaving home to work?
2. Does the evidence, such as the divorce rate in MA, seem to indicate that same sex marriage have relatively no impact on traditional marriage?
3. If your position was to preserve traditional marriage, would it not be reasonable to put most, if not all your money towards combating the leading factors that contribute to its decline?
4. If the anti gm money is not being spent to combat the leading factors in the decline in traditional marriage, but on a factor that has relatively no impact on traditional marriage, then is it not reasonable to assume that it is not being used for the benefit of traditional marriage?
You claim "change of focus" is harming marriage.
You have to back that claim up. To do that, you have to show the original focus, the change of focus, and the effect on the observer.
YOU chose to define that focus in termns of money spent and advertisement, and so YOU have to show the shift. You THEN have to show the effect on othe observer is one that supports the idea that this change has had a negative effect on marriage.
If you cannot do these things, thern admit as much and move on.
And you STILL havent addressed my position - indeed, you have not shown that you inderstand what my position is.
How much money has the anti gm side put towards alleviating the factors of no fault divorce and women leaving home to work versus what they have put towards combating same sex marriage? I argue that they have put little to no money.
Last edited by CriticalThought; 12-02-09 at 02:11 PM.
Also, is marriage really a contract between the state and those getting married? What is the consideration between the state the married couple? Isn't it simply the issuance of a liscence, and not necessarily a contract?
You have stated your position, that a shift of focus has harmed marriage.
You have fallen -far- short of -proving- that position.
Show the shift of focus, in your chosen terms of money spent and ads produced, and that said shift has had the efefct you claim --- or, admit you can not.
Its YOUR claim. Its YOUR responsibility to back it up.It should be extremely easy for you to prove me wrong...
And you STILL havent addressed my position - indeed, you have not shown that you understand what my position is.