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Filing charges of Treason against Obama?

EpicDude86 said:
I know it's Canada Free Press, but still, the guy will be delivering his evidence on Dec. 1. Enjoy. Now, before I get the usual liberal ****storm, please remember I"m just posting this article to hear everyone's response. I'm not going to take a side right away because I want to get some good debates going and hear what you all have to say.

Obama Treason Charges Advance In Tennessee Grand Jury
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:2rofll::2rofll::2rofll::2rofll:
 
EpicDude86 said:
Calling a bunch of people bigots? wow. Way to not break from the Liberal Stereotype of using blanket terms to define people who don't agree with you. :lol:
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Wait, are you defending birthers?
Not to challenge or insult but I ask... why?:confused:
 
SE102 said:
Wait, are you defending birthers?
Not to challenge or insult but I ask... why?:confused:
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It was kind of subtle irony, sarcastically in asking him if he were upholding the 'liberal stereotype' I successfully placed a blanket term over a group of people as well. :lol:

Some birthers are just people who want some more answers because what they see doesn't seem right to them. they're not all foaming at the mouth. Though I guess I would be defending SOME birthers, yes.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Oh my Dear God in Heaven not this again. Do you believe the earth is flat and we never went to the moon?! For God's sake! This is so ludicrous the supreme court refused to waste their time on it. Get over it. McCain and Caribou Barbee lost. Obama's our president now!


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The earth is round, we've been to the moon & Congress nor the Supreme Court (or any other court) has ever clearly defined what the term Natural Born Citizen means.

If you believe that the term Natural Born Citizen has been clearly defined, then I believe you are suspect to falling for just about anything...
 
The silenced majority said:
The earth is round, we've been to the moon & Congress nor the Supreme Court (or any other court) has ever clearly defined what the term Natural Born Citizen means.

If you believe that the term Natural Born Citizen has been clearly defined, then I believe you are suspect to falling for just about anything...
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But the Supreme Court did deny a suit by Philip Berg on Obama's qualifications...
 
Redress said:
But the Supreme Court did deny a suit by Philip Berg on Obama's qualifications...
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That's a matter of the courts not taking up a case where there is no precedent compelling them to do so. Merit has never been the issue.

The fact that these cases get dismissed due to a lack of standing in no way changes the fact that the term: "natural born citizen" has never been clearly defined by the courts or congress.
 
The silenced majority said:
That's a matter of the courts not taking up a case where there is no precedent compelling them to do so. Merit has never been the issue.

The fact that these cases get dismissed due to a lack of standing in no way changes the fact that the term: "natural born citizen" has never been clearly defined by the courts or congress.
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I am going to go out on a limb here and say that I think the Supreme Court is more aware of the issue than you are. They saw no case in challenging Obama's qualifications.
 
Redress said:
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that I think the Supreme Court is more aware of the issue than you are. They saw no case in challenging Obama's qualifications.
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No, they didn't take the case due to a lack of standing by the plaintiff. The merits of the case weren't mentioned.
 
Redress said:
America's Right: Lawsuit Against Obama Dismissed from Philadelphia Federal Court
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from your link:

R. Barclay Surrick said:
If, through the political process, Congress determines that citizens, voters, or party members should police the Constitution’s eligibility requirements for the Presidency, then it is free to pass laws conferring standing on individuals like Plaintiff. Until that time, voters do not have standing to bring the sort of challenge that Plaintiff attempts to bring in the Amended Complaint.
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Berg didn't have standing.

This judge is currently under fire for mentioning Obama's birth certificate in his dismissal, because in doing so, he makes Obama's birth certificate a matter of public record - evidence open to public scrutiny.
 
Redress said:
But the Supreme Court did deny a suit by Philip Berg on Obama's qualifications...
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Bingo! That is all I implied and it means it's move on time in the world of court challenges.
 
Filing charges of Treason against Obama?
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For violating his Oath to the Constitution? Where was this guy when Bush II was in office, or Clinton, or Bush I, etc.
 
Ethereal said:
For violating his Oath to the Constitution? Where was this guy when Bush II was in office, or Clinton, or Bush I, etc.
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There was a guy for everyone I'm sure, just like there is always an amendment on the floor to remove the term limit for Presidents. Sometimes it goes under the radar, perhaps?
 
It's been a week...

Anything new on this matter? Anything at all? Has the judge ruled? Have the charges even been filed?
 
Objective Voice said:
It's been a week...

Anything new on this matter? Anything at all? Has the judge ruled? Have the charges even been filed?
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I'm not seeing much about it other than some conservative news sites. I'll keep looking, but so far it looks like nothing happened.
 
Thanks, EpicDude86.

As I've said before, I seriously doubt if anything will come of this. Once an individual becomes the President-elect, Congress and only Congress can question his (or her) qualifications to be President or remove the individual from office per the Constitution (short of the individual resigning, of course. Wishful thinking on the part of the opposition, but I don't think that's gonna happen either.).
 
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PogueMoran said:
This thread needs to be moved to the conspiracy theory section.
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Standard request any time Barry's eligibility comes up... right out of the lib's play book.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Oh my Dear God in Heaven not this again. Do you believe the earth is flat and we never went to the moon?! For God's sake! This is so ludicrous the supreme court refused to waste their time on it. Get over it. McCain and Caribou Barbee lost. Obama's our president now!


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Wrong on so many levels....
 
Coolguy said:
Nothing of substance to add, only hyperbole? Figures.

Nothing 'The silenced majority' said was wrong or incorrect.
Natural born Citizen hasn't been fully defined.

Take notice and learn.

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Did you get that, or should I repeat it?
It hasn't been fully defined.
And if the Fourteenth Amendment applied that is where they would have turned, instead of saying the Constitution doesn't define it and turning elsewhere.
This is a legitimate issue.
You also need to learn why the Courts are dismissing the claims.
It has to do with 'standing' to bring the case in the first place, not with it being ludicrous.

Secondly, in regards to the Sct. They can only be the final arbiter in regards to these issues.
Get back to me when you comprehend what that means.
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Actually, the case you sited does define NBC…. Let’s look at the word “nomenclature”.

Nomenclature refers to either a list of names and/or terms, or to the system of principles, procedures and terms related to naming - which is the assigning of a word or phrase to a particular object or property.
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[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomenclature]Nomenclature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

no⋅men⋅cla⋅ture  /ˈnoʊmənˌkleɪtʃər, noʊˈmɛnklətʃər, -ˌtʃʊər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [noh-muhn-kley-cher, noh-men-kluh-cher, -choor] Show IPA
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–noun 1. a set or system of names or terms, as those used in a particular science or art, by an individual or community, etc.
2. the names or terms comprising a set or system.
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Nomenclature Definition | Definition of Nomenclature at Dictionary.com

So we can see this passage of that opinion that states: "with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar," means that we can look to an author of the constitution, and to the 1st Congress for the meaning of NBC... so let's do that.

Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

Bingham subscribed to the same view as most everyone in Congress at the time that in order to be born a citizen of the United States one must be born within the allegiance of the Nation. Bingham had explained years earlier that to be born within the allegiance of the United States the parents, or more precisely, the father, must not owe allegiance to some other foreign sovereignty (remember the U.S. abandoned England’s “natural allegiance” doctrine). This of course, explains why emphasis of not owing allegiance to anyone else was the affect of being subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
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Defining Natural-Born Citizen - The Federalist Blog

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Seems pretty clear what the Nomenclature of the "Natural Born Citizen" clause of our constitution means..... and Judge Waite knew it.
 
PogueMoran said:
Yeah "coolguy" had this explained to him already down in the conspiracy theory threads he just keeps posting the same crap to different people as if he doesn't know this **** was explained.
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You got that ass backwards.... but you know that.
 
Crunch said:
Standard request any time Barry's eligibility comes up... right out of the lib's play book.
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Standard request from the Reality Based community. All other birther threads on this forum before this last week have all been moved to the conspiracy theory thread where they belong.
 
Crunch said:
You got that ass backwards.... but you know that.
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Nothing assbackward about it. Coolguy keeps posting the same **** to new people because somehow he thinks he can fool the new guys. This stuff has been hashed and rehashed and he's been beaten down with his whacked out conspiracy theories in the conspiracy theory section over and over again.
 
Crunch said:
Actually, the case you sited does define NBC…. Let’s look at the word “nomenclature”.



Nomenclature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Nomenclature Definition | Definition of Nomenclature at Dictionary.com

So we can see this passage of that opinion that states: "with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar," means that we can look to an author of the constitution, and to the 1st Congress for the meaning of NBC... so let's do that.



Defining Natural-Born Citizen - The Federalist Blog

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Seems pretty clear what the Nomenclature of the "Natural Born Citizen" clause of our constitution means..... and Judge Waite knew it.
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That line only pertains to children born abroad having to have both parents as citizens to become natural born. I don't get what you're trying to show us with the highlighted section that only applies to children born overseas.
 
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