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    Re: Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    wow......could have killed the child, and he gets 120 days? crazy ****.
    We punish people for what they "could have" done?

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    Re: Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    We punish people for what they "could have" done?

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    Re: Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    No, I'm saying questionable because I think he's lying about it being a "warning shot". I don't understand how it can be a warning shot if he shot at someone's head...A warning shot would be shooting the ground or shooting the sky, not at someone head. Even pointing the gun at the cyclist would have been enough, since he approached Diez and stood in front of his driver side window, which he was able to grab at Diez's shirt; that would have been point-blank range.
    i dont think it would be very easy to fire a warning shot anywhere in a car than outside the nearest window, which, in this case, would have been the window in which the cyclist was standing.

    but i think the use of a gun at all was quite excessive though

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    Re: Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    No, I'm saying questionable because I think he's lying about it being a "warning shot".
    You think he is lying? Why? Because he committed a crime to which he admitted?
    Why?
    There is no reason to disbelieve him.
    You really have no evidence not to. Nor do I have any evidence to just take his word for it.
    What we do have is a limited take of the Judges view of the individual resulting in the Judge handing down a 'suspension of sentence'.
    That is noteworthy in regards as to whether or not the Judge may have believed him.

    But like I have already said, we don't have all the information/evidence.




    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    I don't understand how it can be a warning shot if he shot at someone's head...A warning shot would be shooting the ground or shooting the sky, not at someone head.
    All I can say in regards to is, it is because you are still assuming that he was intentionally aiming at his head instead of the other possibilities.



    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Even pointing the gun at the cyclist would have been enough, since he approached Diez and stood in front of his driver side window, which he was able to grab at Diez's shirt; that would have been point-blank range.

    The warning shot just doesn't make sense. I mean really... if you feel threatened, just put your foot on the gas. If your car is off, roll up your window. Where does he get the justification for firing a gun at point blank range as a "warning shot"?
    How one person reacts is different from how another person will.
    You are substituting what you think should/would have happened in relation to how you see things.
    Not as to how they occurred.




    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    I guess it's just how North Carolinian's sees things. Personally, I would not have reached for my gun as my first line of defense, especially not in my car, which is quite a safe place to begin with. Shooting a person at point blank range and calling it a warning shot, and claiming you had no intention to kill the other person, where you were the one who instigated the quarrel in the first place, just raises so many red flags...
    How you react is different than how others react.

    To me there is a difference in degree when it comes to yelling at someone or confronting them face to face. The later being a greater 'instigation' than the former, and more threatening than just some idiot yelling.



    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    I don't think there is a need to differentiate because that's beside the point. What Diez received as his sentence was light, a slap on the wrist. That's what all this outrage is about. If Diez had shot 1 or 2 inches closer to Simmon's head, he would have sustained serious injury, over a questionable "warning shot."
    Of course there is a need to differentiate between what the prosecutor said and what the victim said. Especially when the two are miles apart.

    And it is not beside the point when the Prosecutor states that 'he had no quarrel with the sentence handed to Diez.'. It is a clear indication that the sentence was proportional.

    You seem to think that the sentence, which was within the guidelines is somehow light or a slap on the wrist. A sentence that the prosecutor had no quarrel with.
    Then all I can say is that perhaps those who are outraged are not looking at the totality of the circumstances objectively, but instead subjectively based on what they have assumed happened.

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    Re: Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    This is the type of garbage Law Enforcement deal with on a regular basis.
    firefighter or the bicyclists?
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    Some people deserve to be shot!
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    yeah I always take my family out on bicycles when I am in the mood for a killing

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What the hell? Only 4 months for attempted murder? The judge cited his honorable service in military, his position as a firefighter, and his all around good guy image, as mitigating factors. You know what? I don't give a damn. He shot a guy in the head. The guy is lucky his bicycle helmet took the bullet, sparing his brain.

    I don't care if it is Jesus Christ who shoots someone in the head, in an act of attempted murder. He should do hard time. Someone please shoot the judge, then let's see if that judge would be just as lenient. LOL. Seriously, though......

    1) The shooter belongs in prison.

    2) That judge does not belong on the bench.

    Discussion?

    Article is here.
    Thank you for giving a quote of the article instead of a mere link, and for more than a vague line or two of your own words to spur discussion

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    Re: Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head

    starting to make the brits look reasonable on sentencing

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head

    This is what happens when we go from a rule of law, to a rule of ideology, period, end of story!

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    Re: Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head

    I live in Asheville, and anybody who is riding a bike through the tunnel here, with a kid, is putting their kid in some jeopardy. But shooting at someones head is even worse. This guy attempted murder, and should be tried for it. The father of the kid ought to get some kind of child endagerment trial himself. I'm trying to remember if there is even a sidewalk in the tunnel for pedestrians. I'll have to look next time I go through there. If there is a sidewalk, not a huge deal. But I am pretty sure there aren't any rails up.
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    Re: Man Gets 120 Days for Shooting Cyclist in the Head

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    What do you mean... "could have killed the child"?
    That seems more like an emotional response than one based on fact.

    Secondly if you had read what came earlier you would have known that he received much more than 120 days, which was suspended, unless he commits another crime within the period of his probation.
    he shot a man. he should be serving much more than 120 days.

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