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    Re: Obama not losing support among independents

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    When Obama's numbers are down in the GWB's numbers, I'll be concerned. The American public is fickle. I expect these numbers to flucuate wildly over the next 7 years.



    Isn't Obama's numbers around Palins?
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    Re: Obama not losing support among independents

    I voted for Obama. I won't be doing so in 2012. So he lost at least one vote.
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    Re: Obama not losing support among independents

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    When Obama's numbers are down in the GWB's numbers, I'll be concerned. The American public is fickle. I expect these numbers to flucuate wildly over the next 7 years.
    Too bad for you, that PBO will be out of office in three.
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    Re: Obama not losing support among independents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Too bad for you, that PBO will be out of office in three.
    Really? Who do you think the Republicans have that is going to beat him?

    Huckabee Jindal Palin
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    Re: Obama not losing support among independents

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Really? Who do you think the Republicans have that is going to beat him?

    Huckabee Jindal Palin

    All of the above. By 2012, my dog could beat PBO out of the White House.

    The only hope PBO has is for the Republicans to win back enough of the Congress to make him look good.
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    Re: Obama not losing support among independents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    All of the above. By 2012, my dog could beat PBO out of the White House.

    The only hope PBO has is for the Republicans to win back enough of the Congress to make him look good.
    ......wait......wait......
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    Re: Obama not losing support among independents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    All of the above. By 2012, my dog could beat PBO out of the White House.
    Care to wager your leaving DP on that? lol

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    Re: Obama not losing support among independents

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Considering that PPP is a partisan poll shop and that every other poll out there contradicts this one, I'd be wary of believing anything they say.
    I don't see any evidence of partisanship, WSJ ranked them highly, and the story had been on Taegan Goddard's Political Wire , those guys play it pretty straight. Anyway... as I said it was surprising, and of course no single poll should be taken alone.

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    Re: Obama not losing support among independents

    It doesn't matter how long Obama serves as president as long as he isn't allowed to do anything.

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    Re: Obama not losing support among independents

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    I don't see any evidence of partisanship, WSJ ranked them highly, and the story had been on Taegan Goddard's Political Wire , those guys play it pretty straight. Anyway... as I said it was surprising, and of course no single poll should be taken alone.
    This isn't my characterization, it's the characterization of basically everyone.

    RCP lists them as a Democratic-leaning firm:

    RealClearPolitics - All Latest Polls

    Pollster lists them as a Democratic-leaning firm:

    Pollster.com: WI: Ratings (PPP 11/20-22)

    TPM lists them as a Democratic-leaning firm:

    Obama's Approval In The States: The Honeymoon Is Over -- We're Back To The Campaign | TPMDC

    And to top it off, the President has donated tens of thousands of dollars, all to Democratic candidates or the Democratic party.

    http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/se...&submit=Submit

    They also acknowledge it:

    The firm makes its money by serving as the pollster to an exclusively Democratic roster of clients, ranging from members of Congress to dozens of state legislative and city council candidates. And CEO Dean Debnam has given generously to North Carolina Democratic candidates — including in races where his firm has conducted independent polling.

    In the heat of last year’s competitive Senate race between former Sen. Elizabeth Dole (R-N.C.) and Democrat Kay Hagan, Debnam donated $5,400 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. He also made two $2,300 contributions to Hagan’s campaign.
    Though there’s little to indicate the firm’s Democratic affiliation on its website — clients are listed, but without partisan identification — Jensen said PPP makes no secret of its politics. Either way, it’s become an emerging player in the polling industry for the frequency, newsworthiness and accuracy of its automated public polls. The Wall Street Journal reported last year that PPP was one of the most accurate pollsters in the home stretch of the 2008 presidential election.

    “We’re absolutely rooting in the race. We don’t want Richard Burr to get reelected. We wanted Obama to win last fall,” said Jensen.
    Poll vs. pol: Richard Burr says numbers lie - Josh Kraushaar - POLITICO.com
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