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    Re: Tajik rebels join al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Strapping a bomb to yourself isn't a tactic that is sustainable. AQ knows that. They also know they have to train in other tactics and they have to have a place to do that. It can't be done on the internet.
    Good Morning Apdst,

    It's not a tactic that's supposed to be sustainable, it's supposed to cause as much chaos and as cheaply as possible. It's a tactic to get the more powerful partys to punch holes in the wall. It's to escalate the violence... the more you react the more likely it is for them to use your own momentum to throw you off your feet.

    As long as there are young people to see the holes you are punching in the walls, there will be young people willing to strap bombs to their chests.
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    Re: Tajik rebels join al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Good Morning Apdst,

    It's not a tactic that's supposed to be sustainable, it's supposed to cause as much chaos and as cheaply as possible. It's a tactic to get the more powerful partys to punch holes in the wall. It's to escalate the violence... the more you react the more likely it is for them to use your own momentum to throw you off your feet.

    As long as there are young people to see the holes you are punching in the walls, there will be young people willing to strap bombs to their chests.
    It didn't work for the Japanese, it's not going to work AQ.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Tajik rebels join al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It didn't work for the Japanese, it's not going to work AQ.
    Two different enemies at two different times.

    Not to mention

    It took two nuclear weapons and Tokyo's firebombing to make the Japanese stop their hostilities toward the United States.

    The Taliban has no transnational or large Imperialistic intention like the Japanese Empire did. The Taliban is not capable of creating any sort of Empire-- Just read their Foreign Policies, they had NO idea how to run Kabul, let alone Afghanistan. They were just the strongest tribe at the time.

    To fully beat the AQ hierarchy we are going to have to cross into Western China (where I firmly believe Osama Bin Laden resides). Then we are going to have to figure out which AQ brand will cause problems (as Libyan AQ is actually anti-Bin Laden's AQ; Palestine's AQ is actually anti-Hizb'allah)

    We're gonna have to find a way to deal with the Pakistan question and how to eradicate their Pro-Taliban ranking military...

    This is just the beginning Adpst. I hope you realize what you are asking for the US Military.
    Last edited by Arch Enemy; 11-29-09 at 12:20 PM.
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    Re: Tajik rebels join al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Two different enemies at two different times.

    Not to mention

    It took two nuclear weapons and Tokyo's firebombing to make the Japanese stop their hostilities toward the United States.
    It sure did, didn't it? There's a lesson to be learned from historical events.
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    Re: Tajik rebels join al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    It took two nuclear weapons and Tokyo's firebombing to make the Japanese stop their hostilities toward the United States.
    Uh not quite. It took the Emperor to end the war. If you read journals and post-war interviews with high to middle ranking officers in the Japanese military, the atomic weapons and firebombing were to them, devastating but hardly reasons to stop the war. In fact the Japanese high command was making plans to mitigate the damage of future atomic weapons and how to marshal whatever resources they had left to repel an invasion. Two nukes and firebombing didn't stop intentions, plans and use of resources in hostilities.

    The Emperor was the key. The actual military really has no intention of stopping the war. And there was an attempted plan to stop the Emperor from broadcasting the surrender by members of the military.
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    Re: Tajik rebels join al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Strapping a bomb to yourself isn't a tactic that is sustainable.
    Actually it is. When you have essentially an infinite pool of religiously indoctrinated fools willing to die and access to lots of explosives, suicide bombers ARE a sustainable method. If you use one bomber a day for ten years, that's a mere 3,650 suicide bombers. Not a problem when you look at the population of students in Pakistani Madrasses.
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    Re: Tajik rebels join al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Tajik rebels join al Qaeda - The Long War Journal



    If this is going to be a common occurrence, then our mission is in dire need of a new definition.
    Big deal. Kill 'em.

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    Re: Tajik rebels join al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Actually it is. When you have essentially an infinite pool of religiously indoctrinated fools willing to die and access to lots of explosives, suicide bombers ARE a sustainable method. If you use one bomber a day for ten years, that's a mere 3,650 suicide bombers. Not a problem when you look at the population of students in Pakistani Madrasses.
    No, it's not. The investment of personel, vs. effect isn't balanced enough to make it a viable tactic. Like I said, it didn't work for the Japanese.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Tajik rebels join al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, it's not. The investment of personel, vs. effect isn't balanced enough to make it a viable tactic.
    On what basis?

    Like I said, it didn't work for the Japanese.
    Terrorists =/= Imperial Japanese Military.
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