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    Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    University of Wisconsin-La Crosse student Adam Bauer has nearly 400 friends on Facebook. He got an offer for a new one about a month ago. She was a good-looking girl. I usually dont accept friends I dont know, but I randomly accepted this one for some reason, the 19-year-old said.

    He thinks that led to his invitation to come down to the La Crosse police station, where an officer laid out photos from Facebook of Bauer holding a beer and then ticketed him for underage drinking.

    The police report said Bauer admitted drinking, which he denies. But he did plead no contest in municipal court Wednesday and will pay a $227 fine.

    He was among at least eight people who said Wednesday they had been cited for underage drinking based on photos on social networking sites.

    I just cant believe it. I feel like Im in a science fiction movie, like they are always watching. When does it end? Bauer said after court Wednesday.

    Social networking sites are among many new tools law enforcement has adopted to

    find underage drinkers, said La Crosse police officer Al Iverson, who works in alcohol compliance and education.
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    WTF!?

    Is it ok for the police to use facebook and other social websites to *enforce* the law? I think this is a privacy issue.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    It's his fault for friending someone he didn't know. The police did nothing illegal here.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Although it is a privacy issue, it's within the law enforcement's power to do so. There're certain things that just shouldn't be posted on Facebook; I don't think this is one of them tho.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    I dont think the cops did anything illegal, but I would think that they have better things to do than bust an under age drinker, using a pic on his Facebook page as evidence.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    WTF!?

    Is it ok for the police to use facebook and other social websites to *enforce* the law? I think this is a privacy issue.

    What do you think?
    I think that the net is a nebulous territory in terms of legal boundaries, application of our bill of rights, ownership of intellectual property, privacy, etc.

    In this particular case, the kid may as well have put a billboard up that says "hey, I'm an underage drinker". I think it's a ****ty way for the cops to spend their time. It's not like they caught him in the act or he created any kind of harm or disturbance at the time he was drinking or they would have caught him then. I think this goes against the idea that law enforcement is about public safety and starts to reinforce this idea that law enforcement is about playing "gotcha" games with peaceful citizens.

    So, in the end, no I don't think this is right at all.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    WTF!?

    Is it ok for the police to use facebook and other social websites to *enforce* the law? I think this is a privacy issue.

    What do you think?
    The crime was commited in the country, facebook proves physical evidence of these claims. Why not?

    You need to ask HOW the police got their hands on it in the first place. If its legit, nothing is being breached here, apart from the law on your part.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    The crime was commited in the country, facebook proves physical evidence of these claims. Why not?
    Because it's a giant waste of time that serves no purpose whatsoever.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Because it's a giant waste of time that serves no purpose whatsoever.
    Why is it a waste of time and why does it not serve any purpose?

    If somebody reports an indivisual who is smoking weed, or taking some kind of drug that clearly violates the law, and can provide these claims via pictures from facebook, i see very little evidence to suggest using Facebook is a waste of time and "serves no purpose", if thats what you meant.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Why is it a waste of time and why does it not serve any purpose?

    If somebody reports an indivisual who is smoking weed, or taking some kind of drug that clearly violates the law, and can provide these claims via pictures from facebook, i see very little evidence to suggest using Facebook is a waste of time and "serves no purpose", if thats what you meant.
    I think that by utilizing these methods (Facebook), the police become judge and jury thus pissing on our 4th amendment of undo search. The probable cause "because we can" should *not* be good enough.

    I could careless what crime was committed. The police violated a more egregious one - ignoring our constitution.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Its interesting:

    As a lawyer, it is a violation of our ethics to befriend someone on facebook for the purpose of obtaining personal information about them.

    However, law enforcement is allowed to lie, deceive, falsify evidence in order to obtain a confession etc.....and it is all within legal and ethical bounds.

    There definitely is a double standard...but sometimes you have to take the high road.
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