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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Is there a particular legislation that states a civilians Social Services profile contains enough information to require a warrant to access it? Is this official protocol? If not, then i guess it was done within the boundaries of the law.
    What? What the hell are you talking about, social services profile?

    This isn't a social services profile or any other government owned documentation. This is a social networking page kept as private that was deceptively opened up to LEO seeking a confession for an offense that he had no prior instigation to investigate.

    So no, without a probable cause justification AND an indication that the officer was seeking a confession for a crime, then no, this was not within the boundaries of the law. It was a blatant entrapment situation with an end run around his Miranda rights.

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    Yeah, think about the thread title - a website where people voluntarily post information and pictures for all to see is somehow spying on them. What a friggin joke. People, if you post it on the internet, it's public. Get used to it.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The cops did it and nobody has successfully challenged it in court as far as I know,
    That's just retarded. "It is right because that's how it happened" is not a legitimate rebuttal.

    so I think the burden of proof is on the guy who made the claim that it's illegal in the first place.
    Well, I have supported my position. You have just caterwauled "this is ridiculous" and done nothing to support position so I think it's clear where the score is here.

    Since when can you post pictures of yourself in a public forum committing a crime and expect privacy? It's a ridiculous idea. An expectation of privacy on Facebook? Absurd.
    It's not public when it's marked as private. That's the whole issue...no one can see it except those you designate to share it with. The officer used a false identity, gender, etc to form a "personal" relationship with the suspect and proceeded to trample all over his right to be protected from unlawful search.

    The absurdity here is that you can't support your opposition to my position with anything of substance.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yeah, think about the thread title - a website where people voluntarily post information and pictures for all to see is somehow spying on them. What a friggin joke. People, if you post it on the internet, it's public. Get used to it.
    So still no attempt to support your position. "I'm right because I say I am".

    How idiotic on a debate site?

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's just retarded. "It is right because that's how it happened" is not a legitimate rebuttal.
    Please don't use "retarded" as an insult.

    I didn't say it was right because that's how it happened. I said it means he has the burden of proving his assertion. Which is true anyway.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It's not public when it's marked as private. That's the whole issue...no one can see it except those you designate to share it with. The officer used a false identity, gender, etc to form a "personal" relationship with the suspect and proceeded to trample all over his right to be protected from unlawful search.

    The absurdity here is that you can't support your opposition to my position with anything of substance.
    I imagine the police will just say that was an "undercover" account.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I imagine the police will just say that was an "undercover" account.
    Yeah, so? Is all undercover police work a violation of privacy?

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I imagine the police will just say that was an "undercover" account.
    Even so, undercover investigations are initiated with probable cause for a surveillance warrant.

    And even still, forming a "personal" relationship is not acceptable practice when going undercover. Tainted investigation and all that.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Please don't use "retarded" as an insult.

    I didn't say it was right because that's how it happened. I said it means he has the burden of proving his assertion. Which is true anyway.
    It was retarded. Deal with it.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yeah, so? Is all undercover police work a violation of privacy?
    No. A lot of undercover police work has nothing to do with privacy.
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