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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What did the police accomplish by ticketing this student? It's not like he's going to stop drinking now, and it's not like they stopped him from doing anything harmful.

    So, what did it accomplish? Aren't there more important things for the police to do?
    Whats their to accomplish for arresting anyone breaking the law? He broke the law, the officer enforced it. Thats what they are there for, right?



    I juat smoked some marijuana like five seconds ago and I'm not hurting anyone. I'm just sitting here, posting on an internet forum; same thing happens all the time with beer. Why do I deserve to be harassed?
    Because you broke the law?

    Forget the fact it shouldnt be a law in the first damn place, no changing the fact you broke it.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Whats their to accomplish for arresting anyone breaking the law? He broke the law, the officer enforced it. Thats what they are there for, right?
    Not all laws need to be enforced this vigourosly, especially when other laws supercede underaged drinking in terms of enforcement priority. Every second this officer spent on Facebook could have been put to better use serving the public.

    Police officers are supposed to be members of their community; this one was acting more like an overly invasive stranger.

    Because you broke the law?

    Forget the fact it shouldnt be a law in the first damn place, no changing the fact you broke it.
    But how does it serve the public interest? The police don't HAVE to enforce that law, they simply choose to. Proponents of legal realism would maintain that the law is what officials do about it, so what interest is served in the enforcement of that law?

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Attention internet users: sometimes stuff is open to the public once you post it. Deal with it, and act responsibly when possible. I'm getting a little tired of how surprised people are about how open the internet really is.

    That being said, this was pretty lame and hell, perhaps improper use of police authority.
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    He should have gotten a lawyer. A good one would say they can't prove it was beer, or that it wasn't non-alcoholic beer.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    WTF!?

    Is it ok for the police to use facebook and other social websites to *enforce* the law? I think this is a privacy issue.

    What do you think?
    **** those cops.

    Cops near Universities are the absolute worst. Spend all their time busting underage drinkers. The ones near mine set up a checkpoint outside the library parking lot. It was the most ridiculous waste of money I've ever seen.

    Why bother driving to the library if you are drunk....

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I juat smoked some marijuana like five seconds ago and I'm not hurting anyone. I'm just sitting here, posting on an internet forum; same thing happens all the time with beer. Why do I deserve to be harassed?
    The police state profits from creating crime where there didn't have to be any. Pigs are cannibals so they're always hungry for more pork. No matter how fat they get they always want more. These bloated, bureaucratic swine need laws against victimless "crimes" to justify their own parasitic existence. The more free and self-reliant people get, the less willing they will be to let the police state parasite sap their vitality. Self-respecting people can take care of themselves and each other through peaceful cooperation. Too much of that and people might begin to wonder how they ever got hoodwinked into thinking that donut-scarfing bureaucraps who taser crippled eighty-somethings are somehow heroes. The more people can rely on themselves and their neighbors the less they'll feel any need to rely on police state "expertise."

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think that the net is a nebulous territory in terms of legal boundaries, application of our bill of rights, ownership of intellectual property, privacy, etc.

    In this particular case, the kid may as well have put a billboard up that says "hey, I'm an underage drinker". I think it's a ****ty way for the cops to spend their time. It's not like they caught him in the act or he created any kind of harm or disturbance at the time he was drinking or they would have caught him then. I think this goes against the idea that law enforcement is about public safety and starts to reinforce this idea that law enforcement is about playing "gotcha" games with peaceful citizens.

    So, in the end, no I don't think this is right at all.
    Jall, you pretty much nailed it.

    Legally, the cops didn't do anything wrong in the legal or constitutional sense. The kid posted the pics on his own. Chose to befriend the cop account and got nailed. Its like inviting a cop into your home and then getting nailed for having illegal substances or items out in plain view.

    The problem I have is what you stated. It goes against the idea that law enforcement is about public safety. Operations like this aren't about protecting anyone, its about playing "gotcha" and generating fines and revenue.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    WTF!?

    Is it ok for the police to use facebook and other social websites to *enforce* the law? I think this is a privacy issue.

    What do you think?

    The story is interesting, in that it says the police report states that the kid admitted to underage drinking. I think they could not have issued the ticket without an admission. Sure, they have pictures of what looks like drinking, but how do they know what is actually in the bottles or glasses? They don't.

    I think they used the pix, which freaked out the kids, and made them confess to something the cops had no evidence of.


    I also think its creepy that social networking sites are used to 'police' underage drinking. That is very big brotherish to me.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    But how does it serve the public interest? The police don't HAVE to enforce that law, they simply choose to. Proponents of legal realism would maintain that the law is what officials do about it, so what interest is served in the enforcement of that law?
    i'm pretty sure it is the cops job to enforce the law and maintain order, hypothetically the kid could've got really pissed, thus losing alot of common sense and grabbed a kitchen knife and tried to mug someone or something like that.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    The story is interesting, in that it says the police report states that the kid admitted to underage drinking. I think they could not have issued the ticket without an admission. Sure, they have pictures of what looks like drinking, but how do they know what is actually in the bottles or glasses? They don't.

    I think they used the pix, which freaked out the kids, and made them confess to something the cops had no evidence of.


    I also think its creepy that social networking sites are used to 'police' underage drinking. That is very big brotherish to me.
    Yeah, it seems kind of strange to me too. I totally support the police hunting serious criminals and pedophiles, and also terrorists on the internet, but going undercover online to arrest drinking teens seems a bit strange to me. Maybe they knew it would get reported in the media and it would make kids think twice about it, I don't know.

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