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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    I think that by utilizing these methods (Facebook), the police become judge and jury thus pissing on our 4th amendment of undo search. The probable cause "because we can" should *not* be good enough.
    So if there is picture evidence on facebook of you commiting a crime, it shouldnt be used in a court as evidence material? How does that make the police the judge?
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    I think that by utilizing these methods (Facebook), the police become judge and jury thus pissing on our 4th amendment of undo search. The probable cause "because we can" should *not* be good enough.

    I could careless what crime was committed. The police violated a more egregious one - ignoring our constitution.
    That's how I see it. It's like they did an end run around the unlawful search and seizures clause. Further, police action should not be a matter of throwing a fishing net out onto the web and hoping you catch something. It should be a matter of investigation because there was a vested interested in uncovering criminal activity such a disturbance of the peace, harm to other citizens, damage to the state, etc.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    So if there is picture evidence on facebook of you commiting a crime, it shouldnt be used in a court as evidence material?
    Court is a different matter. There should have been a WARRANT to sign up on his page to be able to use it as evidence. Here, they obviously are ignoring that process. You know, due course.

    How does that make the police the judge?
    They decided he was guilty by pictures. When the guy could have been drinking anything.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    Court is a different matter. There should have been a WARRANT to sign up on his page to be able to use it as evidence. Here, they obviously are ignoring that process. You know, due course.
    Seriously, a warrant, to befriend him on facebook? I mean the guy is pratically inviting a stranger to see the information anyway because he has to accept the request.

    They decided he was guilty by pictures. When the guy could have been drinking anything.
    True but the decision will lie with the courts not the police.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    WTF!?

    Is it ok for the police to use facebook and other social websites to *enforce* the law? I think this is a privacy issue.

    What do you think?
    Sounds like the officer had way too much time on his hands, but whatever I don't really care.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its interesting:

    As a lawyer, it is a violation of our ethics to befriend someone on facebook for the purpose of obtaining personal information about them.
    Seriously? Can you elaborate?

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    WTF!?

    Is it ok for the police to use facebook and other social websites to *enforce* the law? I think this is a privacy issue.

    What do you think?
    I think what they did was pretty dam clever but its wasted on a non-issue like underage drinking. Its a shame they don't apply these skills to going after real criminals.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Seriously? Can you elaborate?
    Yes. It is a violation of the rules of professional responsibility to "befriend" a person on social networking sites in order to obtain information about that person or any other person to be used in a court proceeding.

    Just last month I attended a seminar where there was a session on the ethics involved in sites such as facebook, twitter, myspace etc.

    You can be disbarred or at least sanctioned if you violate this rule.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Why is it a waste of time and why does it not serve any purpose?
    What did the police accomplish by ticketing this student? It's not like he's going to stop drinking now, and it's not like they stopped him from doing anything harmful.

    So, what did it accomplish? Aren't there more important things for the police to do?

    If somebody reports an indivisual who is smoking weed, or taking some kind of drug that clearly violates the law, and can provide these claims via pictures from facebook, i see very little evidence to suggest using Facebook is a waste of time and "serves no purpose", if thats what you meant.
    I juat smoked some marijuana like five seconds ago and I'm not hurting anyone. I'm just sitting here, posting on an internet forum; same thing happens all the time with beer. Why do I deserve to be harassed?

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    It's his fault for friending someone he didn't know. The police did nothing illegal here.
    Other than busting minor law infractions which pose to threat to anyone else. I'm sure they could be out investigating something instead. And if not, and all they really have to do is sit on facebook trying to bust minors for drinking; then I say the police department has too many people there and they need to fire a few officers. Why should the public spend more money on officers not doing anything to positively affect their safety and wellbeing?
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