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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    I think that by utilizing these methods (Facebook), the police become judge and jury thus pissing on our 4th amendment of undo search. The probable cause "because we can" should *not* be good enough.

    I could careless what crime was committed. The police violated a more egregious one - ignoring our constitution.
    While I agree with Ethereal that it was a waste of time, the police did none of that -- they did not act as "judge," they did not act as "jury," and they did not "piss" on the 4th Amendment. The kid posted evidence on the Internet voluntarily and voluntarily allowed it to be seen.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The problem is that digital evidence is very unreliable when it's the ONLY evidence you have of wrong-doing.
    That may be true -- but the kid had the opportunity to challenge on those grounds. He pleaded nolo cotendere, so he didn't argue the authenticity of the pic.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Why is it a waste of time and why does it not serve any purpose?

    If somebody reports an indivisual who is smoking weed, or taking some kind of drug that clearly violates the law, and can provide these claims via pictures from facebook, i see very little evidence to suggest using Facebook is a waste of time and "serves no purpose", if thats what you meant.
    Well look at it this way. The internet is the only thing that governments haven't over regulated yet. The internet allows people to exercise full freedom of speech, expression, and activism. The internet should stay this way.. It shouldn't become a tool for police officers to crack down on petty crimes or pictures that could have been edited or staged for all they know.

    I think it's best we keep the government away from our internet.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    I think it's best we keep the government away from our internet.
    Just like that old guy who said "keep the government out of my Medicare!"


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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Just like that old guy who said "keep the government out of my Medicare!"

    No. Some things are meant for the government to regulate, other things aren't.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    You also took my post out of context by quoting the last sentence and ignored everything above it. By government I mean the police who want to use it as a tool to mean their quota on catching petty crimes.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    You also took my post out of context by quoting the last sentence and ignored everything above it. By government I mean the police who want to use it as a tool to mean their quota on catching petty crimes.
    Some would argue that the police force is a part of the government. Which technically they are. That of the state government that is.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    No. Some things are meant for the government to regulate, other things aren't.
    Um, you did get the point that the internet was created by the government, just like Medicare, right?

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    You also took my post out of context by quoting the last sentence and ignored everything above it. By government I mean the police who want to use it as a tool to mean their quota on catching petty crimes.
    So? Why shouldn't they use it as a tool? As long as what they are doing is legal and constitutional, why shouldn't they?

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    I think this is a privacy issue.

    What do you think?
    He's putting this online, so I doubt it's a privacy issue. Also, he permitted a girl to be his 'friend', thereby knowingly (and stupidly) dropped all protections around his privacy. It's not like the cops hacked into his Facebook account.

    Sorry, I just think he did something stupid. Cops have been using new technologies for decades in order to catch perps (i.e. Project Innocence), this is nothing new.
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