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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Let's not rule out the possibility that underage drinking actually is a problem in this region and the police are resorting to every measure they can to contain it. I'm not certain of the statistics, but my intuition is that there are higher mortality rates involving teenage drunkenness than any other age group.
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    WTF!?

    Is it ok for the police to use facebook and other social websites to *enforce* the law? I think this is a privacy issue.

    What do you think?
    What? really? You've never heard the addage: Once it's on the internet, it's out there for good/all to see?

    I know plenty of Police who use facebook and myspace, and good on them. If you're dumb enough to put EVIDENCE of you breaking the law on a PUBLIC system, especially if it's marked PUBLIC, then you deserve everything you get.

    Now if they hack your account and violate the EULA and such, then I can see a problem.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    What? really? You've never heard the addage: Once it's on the internet, it's out there for good/all to see?

    I know plenty of Police who use facebook and myspace, and good on them. If you're dumb enough to put EVIDENCE of you breaking the law on a PUBLIC system, especially if it's marked PUBLIC, then you deserve everything you get.

    Now if they hack your account and violate the EULA and such, then I can see a problem.
    There's actually no official legislation or any official practice that outlaws police from using Facebook as a tool and no evidence to suggest its an "invasion of privacy", and therefore i see no reason why a warrant would be required.
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    Pretending to be someone else on facebook isnt a crime
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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    There's actually no official legislation or any official practice that outlaws police from using Facebook as a tool and no evidence to suggest its an "invasion of privacy", and therefore i see no reason why a warrant would be required.
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    Pretending to be someone else on facebook isnt a crime
    Agree'd though sometimes a warrant is necessary, but only if there is a legal contract involved where privacy is assured. Not entirely sure on that but I'm pretty sure. For instance data-backup sites, like Carbonite, I am almost sure that Law Enforcement requires a warrant to access any of that data for any customer because there is a reasonable expectation of privacy.

    Pretending to be someone else on facebook may not be crime (yet, and I say yet because of the cases where impersonations have led to violence and death), but fraud and entrapment are. HOWEVER, Willingly posting a picture of yourself committing a crime and allowing anyone to see it, is not entrapment however.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    What? really? You've never heard the addage: Once it's on the internet, it's out there for good/all to see?

    I know plenty of Police who use facebook and myspace, and good on them. If you're dumb enough to put EVIDENCE of you breaking the law on a PUBLIC system, especially if it's marked PUBLIC, then you deserve everything you get.

    Now if they hack your account and violate the EULA and such, then I can see a problem.
    I think you summed it up perfectly here.

    I see people all the time getting themselves into trouble with work, spouses, and worse by posting incriminating pictures or other evidence right out where anyone can see it. I guess it is because, even on a place like FaceBook where your name and location is attached to everything you post, the lack of face to face interaction breeds a feeling of anonymity.

    It sounds like the kid was brought in on suspicion because of the picture, and then rolled on himself. He possibly could have gotten out of it, but, that part's academic now.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Well, actually, no. Murder cases have been built on less.
    On television, perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    On television, perhaps.
    No, in real life. Of course there is some kind of evidence. Rarely is there a photo of someone caught in the act though.

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    Re: Facebook friend turns into Big Brother

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No, in real life. But of course there is some kind of evidence.
    Find a murder case that you believe was "built on less". I don't think I've ever heard of a conviction on circumstantial evidence. But I haven't read EVERY murder case either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Find a murder case that you believe was "built on less". I don't think I've ever heard of a conviction on circumstantial evidence. But I haven't read EVERY murder case either.
    By "built on less" I meant less than a photo of someone in the act of committing the crime. That could be an eyewitness. But murder convictions based on circumstantial evidence only are hardly unusual. A few murder convictions even happen without an actual dead body proving the victim is dead. Here's a case I know of off the top of my head:

    Thomas J. Capano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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