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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    What do you mean?! he READ BOOKS.Do you know what that does to people!?
    Most wingnut pundits would not know what this does, since they have not had this experience.
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    This thread has has no intellectual purpose. In the video, this Beck character never utters the quote until the very end of the video, and then it ends, preventing us from hearing the rest of the context. The first 99% of the video has nothing to do with the quote.

    When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it was going to be about savings, as in we need to be more like China and save.
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by roderic
    I have to disagree here, his policies are clearly influenced by socialist thinking and largely fall within the area social-democracy covers, IMO, but are a far cry from the socialism associated with revolutionary Marxism.
    Which policies?

    But I think we can at least agree that stuff like this:



    Is incredibly stupid and can't really be taken seriously.
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Which policies?

    But I think we can at least agree that stuff like this:



    Is incredibly stupid and can't really be taken seriously.
    thats for sure. Fear mongering doesn't really work on the educated
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    A socialist? He's not even a liberal.
    One of the most accurate posts in this tread so far.

    A socialist in this country would be a conservative in most of the rest of the world.

    Remember...

    "back when Dwight Eisenhower and the socialists controlled Washington, the top marginal tax rate was 91 percent. It's now 35, and so on down the line."

    "Actually, the 2004 election was a perfect illustration of that, essentially. Bush won by running as the nation's defender against gay married terrorists..."
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by roderic View Post
    Most wingnut pundits would not know what this does, since they have not had this experience.
    given the stocking of the bestseller shelves in the barnes and nobles i went to today; i'd have to disagree. they seem to be doing quite a good business in reading and writing books.

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    thats for sure. Fear mongering doesn't really work on the educated
    ah. is that why the response to global warming hysteria from the Right is mostly made up of peals of laughter?

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    No he isn't.
    according to him, he is.

    That is the role of government in general; to maintain the existing social order.
    no, the role of government is to protect individual rights. social order can change as society does.

    The same still applies. The actions of the Obama administration are pretty clearly completely unrelated to anything socialist.
    most of them are corporatist, that is true. but to pretend that elements are not socialist is.... well, sort of silly. we have a semi-socialist government at present, you think he is pushing hard-core for free market reforms of (say) Medicare?

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    One of the most accurate posts in this tread so far.

    A socialist in this country would be a conservative in most of the rest of the world.

    Remember...

    "back when Dwight Eisenhower and the socialists controlled Washington, the top marginal tax rate was 91 percent. It's now 35, and so on down the line."

    "Actually, the 2004 election was a perfect illustration of that, essentially. Bush won by running as the nation's defender against gay married terrorists..."
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    Actually, I'd like to see a comparison between all taxes, not just income taxes. Sales tax, corporate tax, capital gains tax, etc.

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Actually, I'd like to see a comparison between all taxes, not just income taxes. Sales tax, corporate tax, capital gains tax, etc.
    Actually that doesn't matter.

    What you really want (but don't know) is total effective tax rate. Statutory rates mean nothing in a complex system of deductions and credits.
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