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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The question is... what is in his mind? does he think like a Marxist? Hell yes he does.
    Why don't you inform yourself what Marxism is?
    Neitzluber has already posted a summary, all you need to do is read it.

    The video below reveals a Marxist bent
    Not really, you realise that the text commentary in the second half is misleading, don't you?
    The example was a court ordering changes in a school district following de-segregation. lol
    "In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature."
    Oh really?
    How outrageous!

    ...only in AMERIKA!
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    people are being brainwashed i tell you

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Could the fringe right have a more appropriate leader?

    Yes, Glenn thinks the world is under seige and we'll all become communists. He is suspicious about Obama's literature he's read. He thinks Obama is on the terrorists side the way I see him.

    I agree with some findings that Glenn presents like the Acorn scandal recently. Otherwise, he is an extremist himself.
    We may not agree on everything but I bet we could find some common ground.

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiyuu View Post
    Yes, Glenn thinks the world is under seige and we'll all become communists. He is suspicious about Obama's literature he's read. He thinks Obama is on the terrorists side the way I see him.

    I agree with some findings that Glenn presents like the Acorn scandal recently. Otherwise, he is an extremist himself.
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Anyone that thinks Obama is a "socialist" of any kind can't really be taken seriously.
    he's a progressive, which does indeed entail a heavy dose of socialism.

    Bailing out corporations to keep them floating/profitable to prevent the market from collapsing isn't exactly "spreading the wealth"; it's simply propping up the system, which is what the government's job is.
    no, it isn't. it is corporatism; but it is definitely not a legitimate function of the American government.

    Also claiming that because someone "came into contact with Marxist literature" that they have always been and will always be communist is simply stupid.
    how about if that same person then spent 20 years affiliating himself strongly with groups that had been heavily influenced by Marxism?

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill
    he's a progressive, which does indeed entail a heavy dose of socialism.
    No he isn't.

    no, it isn't. it is corporatism; but it is definitely not a legitimate function of the American government.
    That is the role of government in general; to maintain the existing social order.

    ow about if that same person then spent 20 years affiliating himself strongly with groups that had been heavily influenced by Marxism?
    The same still applies. The actions of the Obama administration are pretty clearly completely unrelated to anything socialist.
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    No he isn't.



    That is the role of government in general; to maintain the existing social order.



    The same still applies. The actions of the Obama administration are pretty clearly completely unrelated to anything socialist.
    Yea, people continually call Obama a socialist.

    A socialist? He's not even a liberal.

    People frown upon Obama for the direction he's taking the country. I frown on him because he isn't tough enough on the corporate douchebags most main stream conservatives defend.

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The actions of the Obama administration are pretty clearly completely unrelated to anything socialist.
    I have to disagree here, his policies are clearly influenced by socialist thinking and largely fall within the area social-democracy covers, IMO, but are a far cry from the socialism associated with revolutionary Marxism.

    This does not make Obama a 'radical', the influence of Marx and socialism has been monumental and pervasive, it is also reflected in mainstream conservative policies.

    It is not a question of if, but how and to which extend Obama (or anyone else being scutinised) has adapted socialist philosophy.

    Pointing at lectures he attended and people he has socialised with does not suffice, and it's unnecessary to emphasis it as evidence, when one can examine his own words, voting records and policy proposals. (and I don't mean dumb partisan video clips cherry-picking snippets of recorded material to "prove" a preformed conclusion)

    Sorry, this is far removed from the Beck video, just thought I'd chuck this in.
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by roderic View Post
    I have to disagree here, his policies are clearly influenced by socialist thinking and largely fall within the area social-democracy covers, IMO, but are a far cry from the socialism associated with revolutionary Marxism.

    This does not make Obama a 'radical', the influence of Marx and socialism has been monumental and pervasive, it is also reflected in mainstream conservative policies.

    It is not a question of if, but how and to which extend Obama (or anyone else being scutinised) has adapted socialist philosophy.

    Pointing at lectures he attended and people he has socialised with does not suffice, and it's unnecessary to emphasis it as evidence, when one can examine his own words, voting records and policy proposals.

    Sorry, this is far removed from the Beck video, just thought I'd chuck this in.
    to the uneducated and easily malleable, mainstream opinion is incredibly damning. my political convictions progress, daily, but for the most part im against intervention, here and abroad, with the exception for some gov't programs to help poor people and stabilize aspects of capitalism, and im almost completely for any socially liberal programs.
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post

    Also claiming that because someone "came into contact with Marxist literature" that they have always been and will always be communist is simply stupid.

    But all of us reasonable (and honest) people already knew all of this.
    What do you mean?! he READ BOOKS.Do you know what that does to people!?

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