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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by Neitzluber View Post
    What is Marxism?

    Marxism is the political philosophy and economic worldview based upon a materialist interpretation of history, a Marxist analysis of capitalism, a theory of social change, and an atheist view of human liberation derived from the work of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels; three primary aspects of Marxism are:
    The dialectical and materialist concept of history — Humankind's history is fundamentally that of the struggle between social classes. The productive capacity of society is the foundation of society, and as this capacity increases over time the social relations of production, class relations, evolve through this struggle of the classes and pass through definite stages (primitive communism, slavery, feudalism, capitalism). The legal, political, ideological and other aspects (ex. art) of society are derived from these production relations as is the consciousness of the individuals of which the society is composed.
    The critique of capitalism — In capitalist society, an economic minority (the bourgeoisie) dominate and exploit the working class (proletariat) majority. Marx uncovered the interworkings of capitalist exploitation, the specific way in which unpaid labor (surplus value) is extracted from the working class labor theory of value, extending and critiquing the work of earlier political economists value. Although the production process is socialized, ownership remains in the hand of the bourgeosie. This forms the fundamental contradiction of capitalist society. Without the elimination of the fetter of the private ownership of the means of production, human society is unable to achieve further development.
    Advocacy of proletarian revolution — In order to overcome the fetters of private property the working class must seize political power internationally through a social revolution and expropriate the capitalist classes around the world and place the productive capacities of society into collective ownership. Upon this, material foundation classes would be abolished and the material basis for all forms of inequality between humankind would dissolve.

    What has Obama done?

    Nothing of the sort.
    The question is... what is in his mind? does he think like a Marxist? Hell yes he does.


    "Spread the wealth around".
    Global Poverty Act
    Socialized Medicine
    Demonizing corporations and companies not hiring because they focus on "profit".
    Guh-ment Motors.
    The video below reveals a Marxist bent, never mind that one of his mentors is a Commi: Franky Marshall Davis
    "In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature."

    Nope. Nothing there to look at for the press or people. He's the second coming of Lincoln... remember? Baw-hahahah....

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuqrIcvgkTI"]YouTube- Obama Stiff-Arms the Founding Fathers[/ame]

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Shame on you Zimmer...

    Using REALITY to shut down a thread...

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Are those SOCIALIST crickets I hear??

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Actually he is not out of bounds all the time just he that he acts crazy sometimes. The progressives fought TO END business with Nazis during war world 2 which the bush family aided until theTrading with The Enemy act which end it working with the enemy, The Grandfather bush was working with the enemy until 1941 when the Trading with The Enemy act was put in to law ^^. I am a history nerd.
    If that is true then you should know that the man owned one share in a company that did business in Germany. I'll put that next to the Progressives' open praise of the Fascist movement any day.

    as for praising China.....


    New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman again showed a disturbing affection for China's dictatorship in his Wednesday column attacking Republican stubbornness on health care and climate change legislation ("Our One-Party Democracy"). Friedman pleaded for "enlightened" autocrats, able to get things accomplished against the will of the people, for their own good.

    Watching both the health care and climate/energy debates in Congress, it is hard not to draw the following conclusion: There is only one thing worse than one-party autocracy, and that is one-party democracy, which is what we have in America today.

    One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages.
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    If that is true then you should know that the man owned one share in a company that did business in Germany. ...
    But which of the many was that one?

    " ... Three sets of archives spell out Prescott Bush's involvement. All three are readily available, thanks to the efficient US archive system and a helpful and dedicated staff at both the Library of Congress in Washington and the National Archives at the University of Maryland.

    The first set of files, the Harriman papers in the Library of Congress, show that Prescott Bush was a director and shareholder of a number of companies involved with Thyssen.

    The second set of papers, which are in the National Archives, are contained in vesting order number 248 which records the seizure of the company assets. What these files show is that on October 20 1942 the alien property custodian seized the assets of the UBC, of which Prescott Bush was a director. Having gone through the books of the bank, further seizures were made against two affiliates, the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation. By November, the Silesian-American Company, another of Prescott Bush's ventures, had also been seized.

    The third set of documents, also at the National Archives, are contained in the files on IG Farben, who was prosecuted for war crimes.

    A report issued by the Office of Alien Property Custodian in 1942 stated of the companies that "since 1939, these (steel and mining) properties have been in possession of and have been operated by the German government and have undoubtedly been of considerable assistance to that country's war effort". ... "

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    wow, that's really the best that there is to that case? I had always assumed there was some kind of actual evidence that supported something that was logical or consistent.

    how about this, it'll be fun: I will sit down and explain to you how owning a share in a company does not equal approving of all of the decisions of all of its' affiliates, (and then i will explain to you the similar situation of being a manager), and you can explain to me the hordes of progressive/liberals who did (openly) support Fascist policies?

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The question is... what is in his mind? does he think like a Marxist? Hell yes he does.


    "Spread the wealth around".
    Global Poverty Act
    Socialized Medicine
    Demonizing corporations and companies not hiring because they focus on "profit".
    Guh-ment Motors.
    The video below reveals a Marxist bent, never mind that one of his mentors is a Commi: Franky Marshall Davis
    "In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature."

    Nope. Nothing there to look at for the press or people. He's the second coming of Lincoln... remember? Baw-hahahah....

    YouTube- Obama Stiff-Arms the Founding Fathers

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    Does being a marxist or a socialist discredit an argument?

    Open you mind fools. Read marx, take what you will or dont take any, but dont just point fingers and resort to semantics.

    "coming into contact with marxist literature"-- i was forced to read the communist manifesto. What does that even mean? I was also forced to read Mein Kampf- Am I a fascist?

    Give me a break. Stop with the amateuresque name calling and demonizing.

    Form your own opinion.

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Anyone that thinks Obama is a "socialist" of any kind can't really be taken seriously.

    Bailing out corporations to keep them floating/profitable to prevent the market from collapsing isn't exactly "spreading the wealth"; it's simply propping up the system, which is what the government's job is.

    Also claiming that because someone "came into contact with Marxist literature" that they have always been and will always be communist is simply stupid.

    But all of us reasonable (and honest) people already knew all of this.
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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    YouTube- Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    What the hell? He has finally lost all ability to function now.
    Could the fringe right have a more appropriate leader?

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    Re: Glenn Beck: "We need to start thinking like the Chinese"

    Quote Originally Posted by ConservaBill View Post
    Like I said and you just confirmed, you have never watched.. rendering your response not only childish but quite asinine and irrelevant.... exposing YOUR ignorance not mine!
    And you watched it?
    How did you miss the premise at the beginning from which he build up? You are exposing your ignorance here...
    Quote Originally Posted by ConservaBill View Post
    Holysweet mother of Moses!!

    Glen was referring to having a long term plan (50 years, and 100 year plans) and NOTHING more..

    If you folks would quit listening to those that envy his ratings and honesty (don't worry libs that's not something you'd understand or recognize if you saw it!) and actually watch for yourself you wouldn't appear nearly as ignorant!
    Nah, there is a lot more there, if you had paid attention, you'd know. But cons only ever hear what they want to hear, if it can be said in 2 minutes - the clip obviously is far too long for the average rightwinger to take in.

    He was blaming the early 20th progressive movement for some conspiratorial long-term plan by infiltrating both major parties, which has come to fruition now. lol
    Then suggested that 2 can play this game, "we" can take back the nation and remake it into what it was or something ...

    What a nutter.
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