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Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Gir

What do you mean regardless? Do you think it would have caused him much physical harm to restrain a little girl? If he is a police officer, he is supposedly trained in dealing with this, from larger adults even, not little kids. The guy is either a wuss or just trigger happy.
Im saying he could have been kicked in the balls again while trying to restrain a wildly flailing about individual, regardless of age. This could have caused serious long term physical damage. Sorry, long term injury to balls vs one half second shock causing no long term injury. You do the math.

And no, when speaking of injuries related to restraining someone when they are highly resistive, I was talking about the large potential for the girl to be injured while resisting his attempts to restrain her.




Dont blabber on.
This proves you have no interest in actually trying to understand the decision making process involved in doing police work.

Move on troll.
 
Im saying he could have been kicked in the balls again while trying to restrain a wildly flailing about individual, regardless of age. This could have caused serious long term physical damage. Sorry, long term injury to balls vs one half second shock causing no long term injury. You do the math.

His training should have taught him how to strategically restrain her with minimum contact so as to avoid any further blows by the girl. At the end of the day she is hardly matching in strength so its fair to say he stepped out of line with the gun.

And no, when speaking of injuries related to restraining someone when they are highly resistive, I was talking about the large potential for the girl to be injured while resisting his attempts to restrain her.

:rofl
The girl just got a few thousand volts going through her body and you spew stuff like this.

This proves you have no interest in actually trying to understand the decision making process involved in doing police work.

Move on troll.

Cute comment but im not going anywhere just yet.
Obviously his decision making skills where impaired by the impact to his nut sack, nothing else would explain his tazering of a small child. Its uncalled for.
 
His training should have taught him how to strategically restrain her with minimum contact so as to avoid any further blows by the girl. At the end of the day she is hardly matching in strength so its fair to say he stepped out of line with the gun.
It does. It is called a taser.
 
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Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Girl - November 18, 2009

I think, even as much as she deserved it, this may have gone a bit far.

Wait....a little girl was arrested for not going to bed? I haven't read the thread yet, please tell me I'm not the first to point this out.
 
The girl just got a few thousand volts going through her body and you spew stuff like this.
Ever been tazed?

Didn't think so. Why do you speak of Injury when you know nothing of what being tazed feels like?

The tazer doesn't injure people, and doesn't kill idiots who aren't hopped up on drugs when used properly.
 
Weeeeeell........

I have yet to form a positive opinion about anyone who was involved in this incident: girl, mom or cop.

But, Caine is correct: it doesn't take much strength to seriously injure someone kicking them in the nads. A ruptured testicle is a serious and long-term problem that can change your life.

Tasers... we didn't have them when I was a cop. Maybe I'm not really qual'd to comment on their use. My opinion is they are not as safe as billed and possibly overused, but I've never trained on the modern tasers or been zapped with one, so my opinion might not be as well-founded as I'd like.

I still find it hard to see using one on a 10yo girl, but then again I wasn't there...she might have looked like the demon child from The Exorcist for all I know.

Still, if I were a Judge hearing this as a case, I'd be sorely tempted to tell each of these individuals in turn...
Girl: You're a horrible brat who needs her ass beat with a belt every day for the next three months so you learn to respect your mother's authority.
Mother: Your parenting skills are nonexistant; you are a disgrace to motherhood. Get your frigging tubes tied TODAY.
Cop: WTF were you thinking? Did it not occur to you that tasering a 10 year old girl, whether it was justifiable or not, was surely going to make news, and it DAYUM sure was not going to make your or your department look good to the general public??
 
Weeeeeell........

I have yet to form a positive opinion about anyone who was involved in this incident: girl, mom or cop.

But, Caine is correct: it doesn't take much strength to seriously injure someone kicking them in the nads. A ruptured testicle is a serious and long-term problem that can change your life.

Tasers... we didn't have them when I was a cop. Maybe I'm not really qual'd to comment on their use. My opinion is they are not as safe as billed and possibly overused, but I've never trained on the modern tasers or been zapped with one, so my opinion might not be as well-founded as I'd like.

I still find it hard to see using one on a 10yo girl, but then again I wasn't there...she might have looked like the demon child from The Exorcist for all I know.

Still, if I were a Judge hearing this as a case, I'd be sorely tempted to tell each of these individuals in turn...
Girl: You're a horrible brat who needs her ass beat with a belt every day for the next three months so you learn to respect your mother's authority.
Mother: Your parenting skills are nonexistant; you are a disgrace to motherhood. Get your frigging tubes tied TODAY.
Cop: WTF were you thinking? Did it not occur to you that tasering a 10 year old girl, whether it was justifiable or not, was surely going to make news, and it DAYUM sure was not going to make your or your department look good to the general public??

My sentiments exactly
 
Girl: You're a horrible brat who needs her ass beat with a belt every day for the next three months so you learn to respect your mother's authority.

Heh. My stepdad was a cop too. And he had (and still has) the "old school" mentality to some extent, Italian Catholic that he is. And he and my mom gave me my share of spankings (with paddles and belts, hands being too delicate), soap insertions, and "traditional" punishment with a strictly hierarchical relationship. That lasted until the day I was taller and heavier than him and slammed him into the wall opposite my bedroom door when he tried to **** with me again, after which he never tried to "discipline" me again. The mark is still there.

I suppose boys will be boys, and girls are different, after all, even if this one ain't exactly sugar and spice. And I suppose that she'll never be able to get the power that I got as a result of her unchosen sex. And even if she's able to eventually overpower her mother, it'll mean nothing if she brings some man into the picture to beat her down for her. But honestly, now...that's the kind of mentality more prevalent in fundamentalist Muslim states and such than an advanced Western country, which is why the good ole' U S of A sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the other Western democracies when it comes to our attitudes on this.
 
Ever been tazed?

Didn't think so. Why do you speak of Injury when you know nothing of what being tazed feels like?

The tazer doesn't injure people, and doesn't kill idiots who aren't hopped up on drugs when used properly.

Have you?

So 3000 volts shooting through your body doesnt hurt?
 
Weeeeeell........

I have yet to form a positive opinion about anyone who was involved in this incident: girl, mom or cop.

But, Caine is correct: it doesn't take much strength to seriously injure someone kicking them in the nads. A ruptured testicle is a serious and long-term problem that can change your life.

Tasers... we didn't have them when I was a cop. Maybe I'm not really qual'd to comment on their use. My opinion is they are not as safe as billed and possibly overused, but I've never trained on the modern tasers or been zapped with one, so my opinion might not be as well-founded as I'd like.

I still find it hard to see using one on a 10yo girl, but then again I wasn't there...she might have looked like the demon child from The Exorcist for all I know.

Still, if I were a Judge hearing this as a case, I'd be sorely tempted to tell each of these individuals in turn...
Girl: You're a horrible brat who needs her ass beat with a belt every day for the next three months so you learn to respect your mother's authority.
Mother: Your parenting skills are nonexistant; you are a disgrace to motherhood. Get your frigging tubes tied TODAY.
Cop: WTF were you thinking? Did it not occur to you that tasering a 10 year old girl, whether it was justifiable or not, was surely going to make news, and it DAYUM sure was not going to make your or your department look good to the general public??

Regardless, there's no reason for the cops to have been there in the first place. It's piss poor parenting and unnecessary government intervention. And if a cop can't handle a 10 year old girl, then what's he doing on the force? I don't care what people say about blah blah blah. I don't see parents running around needing tasers when their kids act up, there's no need for the cop to have used his. No need for him to have been there in the first place. Guess what? Kids will throw tantrums from time to time. It's called life, deal with it.
 
Have you?

So 3000 volts shooting through your body doesnt hurt?

its actually 50,000

and it hurts, but does not cause injury

that is what we are discussing.

to say OMG HE IS CAUSING PAIN is stupid.

Thats what we are taught about subject control and arrest techniques, the most effective way beyond "verbal judo" is "pain compliance".
 
its actually 50,000

and it hurts, but does not cause injury

that is what we are discussing.

to say OMG HE IS CAUSING PAIN is stupid.

Thats what we are taught about subject control and arrest techniques, the most effective way beyond "verbal judo" is "pain compliance".

It doesnt cause burns?

Funny, ive seen first hand accounts that say otherwise. :shrug:
 
its actually 50,000

and it hurts, but does not cause injury

that is what we are discussing.

to say OMG HE IS CAUSING PAIN is stupid.

Thats what we are taught about subject control and arrest techniques, the most effective way beyond "verbal judo" is "pain compliance".

They have been known to cause death, and those statistics about not overall causing injury I'm pretty sure were experiments on adults; not children. There's a difference between the two.
 
Heh. My stepdad was a cop too. And he had (and still has) the "old school" mentality to some extent, Italian Catholic that he is. And he and my mom gave me my share of spankings (with paddles and belts, hands being too delicate), soap insertions, and "traditional" punishment with a strictly hierarchical relationship. That lasted until the day I was taller and heavier than him and slammed him into the wall opposite my bedroom door when he tried to **** with me again, after which he never tried to "discipline" me again. The mark is still there.

I suppose boys will be boys, and girls are different, after all, even if this one ain't exactly sugar and spice. And I suppose that she'll never be able to get the power that I got as a result of her unchosen sex. And even if she's able to eventually overpower her mother, it'll mean nothing if she brings some man into the picture to beat her down for her. But honestly, now...that's the kind of mentality more prevalent in fundamentalist Muslim states and such than an advanced Western country, which is why the good ole' U S of A sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the other Western democracies when it comes to our attitudes on this.


Sigh.

I'll try once more. Apparently if I don't write a book people think I advocate abuse.

Children raised in a balanced environment of love, involvement, relationship and discipline tend to thrive, and grow up to be productive and law-abiding citizens.

Children raised in a home with love and indulgence and no discipline tend to grow up to be brats at best; frequently criminals; sometimes sheer horrors.

Applying a belt to a child's buttocks will not kill or maim the child, if done correctly. Discipline should always be applied with consistency and dispassion: if you are angry, do not discipline your child until you are calm. Spankings should generally be reserved for relatively serious matters like safety issues or open defiance. Lesser misbehavior should preferably be handled with lesser discipline.

Children under 5 are not easily reasoned with, and talk-talk-talk does not often make much of an impression. Pain does. Where the issue in question is sufficiently serious, like safety or willful defiance, the pain of a spanking will make the connection and alter the behavior like nothing else will.

If you do it right before they are 5, you will rarely need to spank them after they are 6-8 yrs old in most cases, because you will have internalized certain things to their minds in a way that will stick with them, namely: respect authority; being bad brings pain.

I raised a child by this method who is now a teen. He loves and respects me, his manners and behavior are regularly praised by teachers and strangers, he is happy and well-adjusted. I have had no need to lay a finger on him in years, because I "did it right" when he was small.

BTW, he is also bigger than me now... and he still isn't intrested in starting anything serious with Daddy. :mrgreen:

I've seen the pathetic results of the "modern enlightened parenting methods", and I'll stick with my own methods, thank you very much.


The girl in this story is 10 years old. To be frank, it may well be too late to correct her behavior with the proper combination of love and discipline to turn her into a model child. If you don't start by 5, you have a lot more trouble making the correction. Still, if her mother applied my formula consistently and starting immediately, she might have a chance of raising a child whose life won't be a total tragedy and waste.

G.
 
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I think both physical spankings and alternative forms of punishment can be used correctly or abused. The vast majority of my friends and colleges do not use a form of physical punishment like spanking. Yet they are well able to keep control and raise their children properly in a loving, disciplined environment. While you can get the spoiled rotten child, you can also get the abused child from the other method. So you don't have to throw out the baby with the bath water. Spanking and other forms of physical punishment can be used to achieve wanted results if used properly. But so can methods which avoid physical punishment.

As for this case: Taze the cop in the throat (I heard it does no damage, so it should be ok), punch the mom in the face, and give the girl an icecream cone. Done and done. Heheh
 
They have been known to cause death, and those statistics about not overall causing injury I'm pretty sure were experiments on adults; not children. There's a difference between the two.

Not to forget the epilepsy they have be known to trigger or the heart attacks, especially on the younger and older victims.
 
It doesnt cause burns?

Funny, ive seen first hand accounts that say otherwise. :shrug:


I don't consider burns to be INJURY when compared with the alternatives...

I.E. Long term scrotal damage.... Broken Arms from trying to resist an officer forcibly restraining her arm.

You know zero about this topic it is clear from your responses.
 
I don't consider burns to be INJURY when compared with the alternatives...

Of course you dont it doesnt suit you when clearly they are injuries.

I.E. Long term scrotal damage.... Broken Arms from trying to resist an officer forcibly restraining her arm.

Brain damage from electrical shock, epilepsy which can trigger all sorts of neurological problems, heart attack from the shock.
Broken arms trying to resist a little girl?
Dont think so.

You know zero about this topic it is clear from your responses.

Ad-Hominem.
 
They have been known to cause death, and those statistics about not overall causing injury I'm pretty sure were experiments on adults; not children. There's a difference between the two.

Was this child injured?
...........
kthx.
 
HAHAHAH, long term scrotal damage. From a kid throwing a tantrum. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Could it happen...I suppose if someone was incompetent enough to not know how to control a 10 year old girl...sure. But I would propose that such a person did not belong on the police force. What a *****. It's not like when a couple has a baby, the doctor goes to the father and says, "Welcome to fatherhood, here's your taser to avoid long term scrotal damage". HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA.

Millions of people can deal with their 10 year old child without the use of a taser, maybe this ***** cop should have done the same. Or better yet, he shouldn't have been there. Dollars to donuts says that if a parent disciplined their child with a taser, child services would be in there right away. Double ****ing standard for the government, but gotta protect the authority I guess.
 
Brain damage from electrical shock, epilepsy which can trigger all sorts of neurological problems, heart attack from the shock.
Broken arms trying to resist a little girl?
Dont think so.
Show me the statistics on brain damage from electrical shock, epilepsy which can trigger all sorts of neurological problems, heart attack from the shock when a tazer is properly used on individuals who were not unknowingly to the officers on drugs that already damage the heart.

I think your just making **** up to be honest.
 
Was this child injured?
...........
kthx.

Not this time, but it's not a proven safe method on children. So maybe ***** cops who can't handle a 10 year old girl shouldn't resort to unknown, untested methods against children. Just because it worked out once doesn't mean you're always gonna roll a natural 20 each time. It's called statisitics kthx.
 
Tazing a child is unacceptable, I guess parenting went out the window with this child.
 
HAHAHAH, long term scrotal damage. From a kid throwing a tantrum. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Could it happen...I suppose if someone was incompetent enough to not know how to control a 10 year old girl...sure. But I would propose that such a person did not belong on the police force. What a *****. It's not like when a couple has a baby, the doctor goes to the father and says, "Welcome to fatherhood, here's your taser to avoid long term scrotal damage". HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA.

Millions of people can deal with their 10 year old child without the use of a taser, maybe this ***** cop should have done the same. Or better yet, he shouldn't have been there. Dollars to donuts says that if a parent disciplined their child with a taser, child services would be in there right away. Double ****ing standard for the government, but gotta protect the authority I guess.

Control a 10 year old girl?

you mean one flailing and kicking about while you attempt to move in to control her and get kicked in the groin? oh wait.....

THAT ALREADY ****ING HAPPENED IN THIS SCENARIO!
 
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