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    Re: Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Gir

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You don't know what happened, your making a generalized assumption without the specific knowledge needed to make such an assumption in this particular case.



    I'm glad people like you don't run use of force review boards, lacking the knowledge of what things are really like in the world of police work.
    And without specific knowledge, you'll say it's ok to taser unarmed children throwing a fit. Don't go into a Wal-Mart man, I'd hate to see the carnage you leave in your wake.
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    Re: Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Gir

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    The facts? You mean the facts she was a 10 year old girl and some pathetic excuse of an officer couldnt restrain her?
    Age has nothing to do with it, there is no age limit on self-defense statutes. And he restrained her quite nicely, thank you.
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    Re: Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Gir

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Prove it.
    Let's see....she was a little girl. Check. She was throwing a tantrum. Check.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Gir

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Let's see....she was a little girl. Check. She was throwing a tantrum. Check.

    Were you there?
    Do you know what she was doing?

    No and No?

    K, good game..
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    Re: Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Gir

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    The facts say otherwise, but you aren't interested in learning them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    Age has nothing to do with it, there is no age limit on self-defense statutes. And he restrained her quite nicely, thank you.
    Well where morality and ethnical police practices stand, it has everything to do with age and strength. He could have shot her, that would have worked right? I mean, who cares that she was ten?
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    Re: Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Gir

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Were you there?
    Do you know what she was doing?

    No and No?

    K, good game..
    She punched the officer in the balls what do you think she was doing, the salsa?
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    Re: Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Gir

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Well where morality and ethnical police practices stand, it has everything to do with age and strength. He could have shot her, that would have worked right? I mean, who cares that she was ten?

    Was she using lethal force?
    No?

    k, then your suggestion that he could have shot her is about as ignorant as all your posts in this thread.

    You have proven you lack any knowledge on the subject to be more than just a troll.

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    Re: Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Gir

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Were you there?
    Do you know what she was doing?

    No and No?

    K, good game..
    Are you saying the little girl tasered was not a little girl? Are you saying she wasn't throwing a tantrum? Because the details of the story say it was a 10 year old girl throwing a fit over bed time. Less you're just making **** up now to try to back yourself out of that corner you got into. Plus, the individual is assumed innocent, it's up to the State and authority to prove cause. Till such point, the cop overstepped his bounds. If he can't restrain an unarmed girl throwing a tantrum, then he doesn't belong out on the field.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Gir

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Was she using lethal force?
    No?
    Nope, another reason she shouldnt have been tasered.

    k, then your suggestion that he could have shot her is about as ignorant as all your posts in this thread.
    Hey, your supporting the tasering of a small child having a hissy fit.

    You have proven you lack any knowledge on the subject to be more than just a troll.

    kthnx.
    Then again anybody that doesnt agree with you is, right caine?
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    Re: Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Gir

    The truth about taser safety is probably not found in either the alarmist sites or the industry literature, but likely somewhere in between.

    I accept that the taser is safer than using the baton, and probably safer than punches or kicks. Whether it is safer than using empty-hand restraining techniques is probably still debateable... but if you used an armlock on that little girl and she struggled too much, she might dislocate her shoulder and people would still be crying "police brutality!"

    The whole situation was fracked up from the git-go and likely nothing the cop did would have left him coming up smelling like roses.
    If he said "this is your problem" and walked out, he'd be painted as ignoring the safety of the public...especially if the girl hurt herself or someone else after he left.
    If he grappled with her physically and left handprint marks from grabbing her arms, let alone a dislocated shoulder from excessive struggling, again it would be "police brutality!"

    He was screwed when the dispatcher sent him out there, pretty much.

    It probably won't help any, but let me tell y'all about a "cop thing": we kind of hate to criticize other cop's actions unless they were obviously beyond the pale...but there is more reason for it than just the thin blue line. If you ask a cop about "X incident in the news" and ask them "don't you think the cop overreacted?"...even if the cop you are asking DOES think it was possibly excessive, he's most likely to say this phrase:
    "I wasn't there."

    The reason being, every situation is different, and the "stats" and the "tale of the tape" (who is bigger/possess more firepower) don't always tell the whole story. A news story can't convey the sense of what may have been happening on the scene: the screaming, the pressure, the frequent necessity of making a split-second decision that will be dissected at the leisure of supervisors, internal affairs, lawyers, reporters and armchair generals.
    I'm not necessarily talking about this particular incident, but in general.

    I've been out of it for thirteen years and don't feel compelled to hold the "thin blue line" anymore, but I still remember how hard it is to evaluate a situation from the comfort of your living room chair, when you weren't there when it all went down.

    In this case, I've already said I don't think I would have used the taser myself; but I've also admitted that these modern tasers didn't come into use until after my time in the barrel and I am not an expert on their use.

    That's about as far as I'm personally willing to go in criticism, because...
    I wasn't there.

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